Archive for the 'ATF' Category

November 23, 2014

ATF making up crimes

Nothing new. They’ve done it quite a lot. But a judge is bringing the heat:

“Society does not win when the government stoops to the same level as the defendants it seeks to prosecute,” he wrote. “Especially when the government has acted solely to achieve a conviction for a made-up crime.”

Also, I liked this:

But for the undercover agent’s imagination in this case there would be no crime.

November 19, 2014

ATF update on the Sig SB-15 brace

Firearms Technology Branch tells shotgun maker, Black Aces Tactical, that shouldering it may turn a gun into a short barreled shotgun. So, yes on rifles and not on shotguns?

November 04, 2014

Eric Holder dumps fast and furious documents on election eve

Not many details but 64,280 pages of documents and it’s only partial indicates we need to get rid of some paper pushers.

November 03, 2014

TICS checks for warrants

Things I did not now. A reader emailed this a bit back and was taken to task in the comments. He has since sent an update:

So I sent you the basis for the post last year, and everyone called bullshit on it in the comments. I was with Dennis@Dragon last night and he told me that in TN when the FFL does a Background Check, they do it through TICS, which coordinates with NICS, but TICS also looks for outstanding warrants. If there is a warrant, they tell the dealer to stall the buyer while they contact the local PO PO.

So that is what I saw happen last year at the show, it’s not a NICS deal, but it is a TICS deal. It may be that way in some other states too.

Just wanted to give you an update!

So, not the NICS but rather Tennessee’s system.

November 01, 2014

Speaking of the accidentally approved form

Here’s a pic.

Suit challenging NFA denials for machine guns

Here’s the complaint. The plaintiff was issued an approval by mistake and now he’s suing. And some in the NFA community aren’t too pleased:

How can I donate to fight this ‘NFA lawsuit’

I have too much skin in this game to let some idiots ruin it all. No outcome from this is good for me, or other collectors I know.

Yet we’ve let a bunch of trailer dwelling keyboard commandos put us in fear of even voicing our opinions! It’s like soviet russia!! We have to toe the party line in public and say that we’d like to see our collections value evaporate overnight – some of us with six figures and more of investments – just to be able to buy some new crappy Mac-10s for $500 a piece. If we say what we really think, the mob of yokels crucifies us.

God help us when every tom dick and harry at the range can show up and blast dirt. I worked hard in my medical career to be able to own nice things that not every jackass can have. What if people could walk into the dealership and buy the classic corvette I have for $5000? Is that fair, considering mine cost ten times that? Is that acceptable to even consider allowing as an outcome?!?!

This is unacceptable. First, is there a more private board for true NFA collectors where we can discuss these issues in private? Second, what can we do to fight this? Filing ‘amicus briefs’ from our side, etc?

The circular firing squad takes aim.

ETA: Apparently, a lot of people didn’t get the tongue in cheek nature of this and the linked subguns post, which was complicated by the board deleting it. The post was even said to have been written by Bill Gates. With it gone, you didn’t see that. Sorry about that.

To those who think I wrote that, lolwut?

October 26, 2014

In ATF news


October 20, 2014

In Fast and Furious news

Rather curious, given Holder’s pseudo-resignation that his top deputy has resigned after a fast and furious gun turned up in a Phoenix crime.

And here’s the info that the Justice Department won’t give congress.

October 12, 2014

Boating accident

An ATF had one

September 24, 2014

ATF asking about internet sales on forms

From John Richardson:

It is within this context that I was surprised by a new question on the ATF Form 8 ((5320.11) Part II. This form is for the renewal of a Federal Firearms License I have circled it in the photo below. Having had my Curios & Relics FFL for going on 18 years, this will make my sixth renewal of my collector’s license. My last renewal was in 2011 and it did not have this question on it.

September 21, 2014

They’ve been doing this for years

ATF using onerous regs to shut down gun dealers? Even those with a 99.9% rate of filling out paper work correctly.

September 18, 2014

Well, they are colossal fuck ups

Legislation Introduced to Eliminate ATF

September 17, 2014


Obama’s ATF wants people to list their race on 4473s.

September 16, 2014

Dobyns v. USA

Jay Dobyns is vindicated.

Prior stuff here.

September 14, 2014

Constructive possession and Sig

Sig made a muzzle device that featured unenclosed baffles. ATF said it was a suppressor. A judge said to be a suppressor it had to actually suppress. Now, ATF is hitting the constructive possession angle, because you could enclose it.

Well, I have some PVC, wire mesh and some foam. I’m clearly in constructive possession.

September 12, 2014

ATF: Oops, we didn’t mean to approve that machine gun

So, someone took the ATF ruling that trusts aren’t people and applied to make a machine gun. ATF sent them an approved form 1. Apparently, ATF thinks this ruling only applies to some things and not others and called the guy asking him to send it back. Personally, I’d lawyer up and tell them to fuck off. I wouldn’t build the gun until talking to a good lawyer but definitely tell them to fuck off.

July 30, 2014

The ATF can just make up the law and the courts agree

The multiple rifle reporting requirement has been upheld by an appeals court. There is no basis in the law for this. He has a pen and a phone.

July 27, 2014

ATF is racist

They basically create a crime and then target minorities for the sting.

July 24, 2014

AR-15 Pistol Briefcase

Expect ATF to reconsider their SB-15 classification?

July 21, 2014

AR wear and tear

Double taps and hoping ATF doesn’t see it.

July 16, 2014

NFA regs are stupid

Yeah, pretty much:


July 14, 2014

Then why do they exist?


General Accounting Office report has found that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives lacks the resources to effectively investigate one of their highest stated priorities–firearms in the hands of those prohibited by federal law from having them.

June 26, 2014

Embellishment at ATF

They have a knack for stretching the truth.

June 25, 2014

Sig v. ATF lawsuit on hold

Seems the ATF is going to actually check sound suppressors to make sure they suppress sound. Novel idea.

June 19, 2014

ATF blames gun trafficking in Chicago on threepers

Oh, really? I doubt it.

June 07, 2014

Judge to ATF: Stop making it up as you go along

Arbitrary and capricious: An interesting opinion in which a judge tells the ATF that for something to be a suppressor, it has to actually suppress sound:

A mouse is not an “elephant” solely because it has three characteristics that are common to known elephants: a tail, gray skin, and four legs. A child’s bike is not a “motorcycle” solely because it has three characteristics common to known motorcycles: two rubber tires, handlebars, and a leather seat. And a Bud Light is not “Single-Malt Scotch,” just because it is frequently served in a glass container, contains alcohol, and is available for purchase at a tavern.

And, as the judge noted, one would think that to determine if something is a silencer, ATF probably should measure the sound.

June 03, 2014

DOJ appealing decisions against ATF

Seems a couple of judges didn’t care for ATF creating criminals and struck them down for it. Well, they are appealing.

May 30, 2014

Judge says ATF creates crime

Glenn has a report of more questionable ATF performance, in which they create crimes to blame people for. Kind of like how the FBI always creates terrorists to catch.

Imagine how differently people would think of ATF today if they created a crime for Randy Weaver to commit.

May 21, 2014

Compliance = Defiance?

I had a conversation recently in the real world with a gun nut friend in which I basically said that gun rights folks were sort of like prisoners. If you’ve ever worked in a prison, you know that the prisoners have nothing to do all day long except plot how to circumvent the rules. And, if you work there, you have a job to do while they figure out ways to squeak out an extra privilege or whatever. And that’s what most did. Why not? Nothing else to do! The folks watching you have jobs to do.

Gun rights folks, while similar in circumstance, are different in motivation. They want to figure out the rules and exactly how they comply with them because they can. Or they want to prove how stupid gun laws are. Or because fuck you.

And gun rights folks also have the occasional person, who’s rather like the prisoner who thinks life is better if you accept your fate and suck up to the guards, that wags their finger when a firearms law hack presents itself.

I was rather surprised that a gun blogger, commenting on the SB-15 and tax avoidance, opined that: But to those people I overheard saying, “Yay! Now I can have a short barreled rifle without the paperwork!…” I say, “Shame on you!” This part of the post was as surprising to me as the hideous grammar and spelling.

Shame on me? What on earth for? Those that snatch up a SB-15 for giggles (like me) are complying with the law. And, as the owner of a tax stamp collection, I can tell you it’s a pain in the ass to get your SBR on. I don’t mind paying the tax. I mind the ridiculous bureaucracy-imposed 18 month plus waiting period that has grown substantially worse under the current administration. And I mind the national gun registry that is the NFRTR. And I mind an administration that doesn’t like gun owners very much. Or, I could hop on the internet and have a SB-15 shipped to my house overnight.

For a gun that’s just going to be a plaything anyway, it’s easy math.

So, yeah, from this inmate, I’m cool with anyone dropping their SB-15 on a sub 16 inch gun. Hell, I’m going to build four of them before ATF changes it’s mind or whatever it calls that arbitrary rules making apparatus it uses. And you should too.

May 18, 2014

In fast and furious news

Judge is leaning toward White House privilege claim in ‘Fast and Furious’. Yes, she’s leaning toward keeping secret documents that may explain exactly what the hell they were thinking.

Remember, I do this to entertain me, not you.

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