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National reciprocity cleared the judicial committee. I’m not going to get my hopes up about it just yet but progress is progress.

11 Responses to “Good”

  1. wizardpc Says:

    Kabuki for the primaries. “Look how good we are on guns! We passed this out of committee! Sure we never actually put in on the calendar for a floor vote, but that’s just because we ran out of time. We’ll do it next session….Promise!”

  2. Miles Says:

    Unless McTurtle crashes and burns the Senate rule that it takes 60 votes to end debate (Cloture), or require a Senator to actually stand on the floor and continually speak as used to be done to filibuster, no matter by how large a majority this, or any other pro-gun law passes the whole House, the demoncraps in the Senate can and most assuredly will block it.

    And, I agree with Mr Wizard that it would be nothing more than Kabuki Theater.

  3. Lyle Says:

    They don’t have the authority to give us permission to carry guns.

  4. Tirno Says:


    No, they don’t. But they can codify the recognition of Full Faith and Credit with regard to concealed carry licenses, use the prevailing interpretation of the Commerce Clause to protect the carried firearms from local prohibitions, and a number of different things to give anti-civil-rights activist judges no cover to hide behind.

    It’s not perfect, but I’ll not let that get in the way of some good. This will be the 55 gallon drum of Legal-Lube needed to get the slippery slope tilting our way for a change.

  5. Jay Eimer Says:

    And if it eventually passes, you still won’t be able to carry in some states. Ones with “owner cards” and such will just say “no out of state cards” and now your permit is good to carry a weapon – that the lack of FOID means you can’t have.

    Remember, if you use full faith for driver’s license, you get to drive in NY, but have to obey NY laws. If NY says interstates have 55mph speed limits and no right turn on red, that doesn’t change just because you’re from some civilized state. If they can do that, they can do the same with carry. Either making it restricted to nowhere (or nearly so) by “prohibited locations” or require a pre-approval that can’t be obtained or is cost prohibitive.

  6. Publius Says:


    That’s already been litigated. They can’t make an out-of-stater have a FOID that they won’t issue to out-of-staters.

  7. Ian Argent Says:

    A “FOID” requirement would be null and void against out-of-state permits, the CCW permit allows for possession of handguns, magazines, and ammunition –

    “a person who is not prohibited by Federal law from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm, who is carrying a valid identification document containing a photograph of the person, and who is carrying a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant to the law of a State and which permits the person to carry a concealed firearm or is entitled to carry a concealed firearm in the State in which the person resides, may possess or carry a concealed handgun”

    “The term ‘handgun’ includes any magazine for use in a handgun and any ammunition loaded into the handgun or its magazine. ” (PDF link, obviously)

  8. Ian Argent Says:

    As for onerous restrictions on permit-holders. Remember, in the may-issue states, the people who do have permits are quite politically powerful. They’re going to throw a fit if they can’t carry most places.

  9. Ian Argent Says:

    How many states have an OWner’s ID, anyway? IL and?

    NJ has a Purchaser’s ID, but you don’t have to have one to own. Several places require registration. NY, maybe?

  10. dandydon Says:

    I don’t know if it will actually pass, but I am totally jazzed to see those who would like to confiscate all firearms fighting tooth and nail to keep this concealed firearm reciprocity legislation from happening instead of moving closer to their ultimate goal.

  11. Ron W Says:

    By the U.S. Bill of Rights the People and the States DECLARE the following to the Federal Government:

    “[T]he constitutions of most of our states assert THAT ALL POWER IS INHERENT IN THE PEOPLE; that they may exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which they think themselves competent, (as in electing their functionaries executive and legislative, and deciding by a jury of themselves, both fact and law, in all judiciary cases in which any fact is involved) or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; THAT IT IS THEIR RIGHT AND DUTY TO BE AT ALL TIMES ARMED; that they are entitled to freedom of person; freedom of religion; freedom of property; and freedom of the press.” –Thomas Jefferson