Goodman shows require NICS checks
Goodman-promoted gun shows now require background checks
Sales between individuals at the events are exempt from the new rule.
That sounds exactly like how federal law works. But:
Bill Goodman Gun and Knife Shows have tightened rules governing who can buy guns at Hara Arena and other Goodman shows.
Background checks of buyers are required by licensed and non-licensed vendors selling guns at the shows promoted by Goodman, company officials confirmed Monday.
“All vendors who have any firearms on display must display a ‘Background Checks Required’ signage provided by the promoter,” according to new guidelines posted online by Goodman.
So if an individual gets a table to sell some of their guns, they have to do checks. I don’t know that many individuals are set up to do checks.
February 1st, 2011 at 10:41 am
You have to ask one of the licensed dealers to run the check, some will some won’t
February 1st, 2011 at 10:45 am
Please mr Fed, can I sell my own property?
I would think a concealed carry permit or drivers license would be fine enough, at least for a long gun in my state.
February 1st, 2011 at 10:57 am
“All vendors who have any firearms on display must display a ‘Background Checks Required’ signage provided by the promoter,”
So, if I just walk around the show with a sign on my back, or I sell it outside the door to the show or in the parking lot . . . ???
February 1st, 2011 at 11:08 am
last show I went to, the vendors didn’t run the check, the show had a booth setup that did. Customers would buy a gun and get a form filled out with all the right info. They would then take the form to the NICS booth where an FFL would run the check for them. They would then get their form back and a reciept which allowed the vendor to release the firearm to the customer
February 1st, 2011 at 12:26 pm
If you want to be technical, the rules say that you must display a sign that background checks are required, but there is no requirement that the seller actually perform the checks, only that they must display the sign.
February 1st, 2011 at 1:25 pm
I love the appearance of enforcement without the burden of actually, you know, having to do anything that would enforce the rules.
February 1st, 2011 at 2:48 pm
If you don’t have the right kind of FFL you *can’t* run a background check. The very first things NICS asks for are your FFL and code word.
So unless they’re providing some way for individuals to have someone else run these checks it can’t be done.
And I’m not certain it’s legal for an FFL to run a check for a gun they aren’t transferring so unless the polite fiction is that the individual is ‘selling’ the gun to the FFL who is then ‘selling’ the gun to the buyer – which would be a whole different class of illegal – I’m not sure it’s allowed.
February 1st, 2011 at 6:53 pm
@KCSteve – It does look like this creates a whole new type of straw-sales….
February 2nd, 2011 at 10:30 am
@KCSteve – what happens if the buyer hands the cash to the FFL who turns around and hands the cash to the original seller (less his NICS fee cut), and then the seller hands the gun tot he FFL who hands it to the final buyer?
And then if this is done with IOUs, or the FFL “runs a tab”….
My head hurts.
(Wait, I guess this would require the FFL to put it in his A&D book. Feh)