Tula Ammo
Looks like a decent price. Anyone ever use it?
Update: Apparently, it’s pretty much Wolf ammo. Which is fine because my ARs run it.
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September 20th, 2010 at 11:00 am
If I’m not mistaken,Wolf is made at Tula.I’ve neever had a problem w/Wolf,but have heard of excessive fouling in certain calibers.
September 20th, 2010 at 11:01 am
It’s the same as the wolf ammo. I believe the cartridges are actually lacquered steel. I’ve heard complaints from others about them, (lacquer causing the shell to stick) but I’ve seen no proof they are anything different in behavior than brass.
Used them in .308 as well and no issues seen even when you get the receiver hot.
September 20th, 2010 at 11:20 am
It’s probably dirty and smelly, given where it comes from.
September 20th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Inadequate crimp in 223 causes setback on chambering. Pistol ammo rather eccentric and doesn’t chamber is some guns.
September 20th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Supposedly identical to Wolf (in the grey “polymer-coated” version).
Dirty, somewhat low powered, and the polymer costing WILL rust if it gets a chance, which the lacquered steel cases won’t. Accuracy reports are mediocre, but good blasting ammo ‘cuz it’s cheep. IMHO, if your AR won’t run Wolf, you need to figure out why.
I prefer the Brown Bear lacquered stuff, but I doubt there’s much difference.
September 20th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Also, Ammoman will sell you 1K of Wolf (55 gr, FMJ or HP) for $239 including delivery.
September 20th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Had enough bad experiences with Wolf and stuck cases that I’ll never buy it or sue it again. I gave away the last 600 rounds of it that I had. This looks to be the same ammo. Buyer beware.
September 20th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
FYI – the FMJ version is cheaper ($225):
http://www.luckygunner.com/223-rem-55-gr-fmj-tula-black-1000-rounds
Yeah – this is basically the same product as the Wolf line. Runs just fine in my AR15, although I do always clean it thoroughly afterwards.
September 20th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I picked up 1000 of the 55gr stuff when it was on sale at Cabelas (check their prices too; they buy enough to sell cheap). It is identical to Wolf – grey steel cases. Dirty. Good blasting ammo, or short-range ammo.
My current AR doesn’t care for it; after about ten rounds it’ll rip a rim off and clog things up ’til I find a rod.
September 20th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
If it is the same as Wolf, thanx but I’ll pass. Corrosive primers – nuff said.
September 20th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
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September 20th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Think of Tula as a giant factory which stamps different names on their ammo, sort of like AR lowers here in the States. Mr. Wolf can describe it better for you.
Tula or Volk ammo is false economy. The steel case is less than optimal for the AR-15 platform (for the AK platform, buy it) and will muck up your weapon and bring tears.
American, you want American ammo for class. Remington, Federal, Winchester or Black Hills is what I trust. (I have had failures with all but to demand perfection is unrealistic).
September 20th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
The local walmart sells Tula FMJ .380ACP. I havent bought any because I am all stocked up but it is reasonably priced.
September 20th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
I bought some Tula .30 Carbine a few weeks ago- steel cased, Berdan primered, stinky but not too dirty. Worked ok in the Blackhawk for paper purposes at 50 yards. Paid about $12 for 50 rounds locally at one of your other advertisers.
I probably won’t use in in my M1 carbine, but my Blackhawk didn’t care one way or the other.
September 20th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
The AR platform runs most times with wolf fine. The only issue you may have to look out for is stuck cases, if you decide to shoot brass ammo after steel cased stuff.
Steel does not expand as far, and allows carbon to blow by into the chamber. Later, when a brass cased round is fired, it can expand and adhere to the carbon in the chamber, and fail to extract.
September 20th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
I’ve had good luck with steel cased ammo in my AR, but I wouldn’t use it for a match or anything serious. Rezero your rifle with your “warshots” after you train with the steel crap.
I’ve had the best results with the “Silver Bear” zinc plated stuff: http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=ABS223HP62&groupid=21 For whatever reason, it seemed to run cleaner and was more accurate in my gun than the lacquered steel ammo like Wolf or Tula or “Brown Bear”.
September 20th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Steel cases chew up some extractors.
September 20th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Steel cases chew up some extractors.
Yup. A new extractor is $15. The savings from shooting 1000 rounds of steel cased ammo vs 1000 rounds of brass cased ammo around $100. You could even buy a “steel cased ammo only” bolt and still save money.
September 20th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Is there a steel cased ammo bolt for my PLR-16? Is there some other reason not to use steel cased ammo in the PLR-16? Serious questions, since Kel-Tec seemed pretty adamant about not using steel cased ammo in their pistol, and I’d seen some accounts of mishaps.
I use Wolf MC in my AK and love it, but in the ARs, I’ve avoided steel.
September 20th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
I’ve run plenty of steel case Hornady training ammo, both 55gr and 75 gr without issue. I just won’t run Wolf. Something about that polymer coating just doesn’t play nice with an AR.
September 20th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
My range doesn’t allow steel-cased ammo, so the question is moot.
September 21st, 2010 at 7:27 am
Whatever you buy read some reviews.
Hard to mis-handload most of the rifle calibers because the basic loads usually fill up the case. (so you can’t double load) You need to know how to do that anyway.
Just bought several different brands of M1 carbine to try. Read all the reviews and sorted a few out before purchasing.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:46 pm
I got a batch of Wolf for my AK some years back, had about a 3% failure to fire, so I’ve stayed away since. Maybe it was just the batch.
September 22nd, 2010 at 12:28 am
Should be fine. Tula, like Wolf, has non corrosive primers. Good stuff if you don’t care about reloading.
Personally, I really like Prvi .223. Their M193 and M855 NATO spec stuff is excellent. I like it better than Federal, and it’s cheaper too.