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Michigan State Police police say the Gamo Whisper (an air rifle with a built in suppressor) is illegal.

11 Responses to “Shhhh”

  1. Robb Allen Says:

    Reading the comment thread, I now remember why I don’t frequent AR15.com (or most message boards) any more.

    I have a hard enough time with blog comments.

    “It IS a gun”
    “No it’s NOT”
    “Is TOO!”
    “Is NOT!!”

  2. Pete Says:

    What’s funny is that suppressors are legal in michigan (the laws says they’re ok if the feds ok it), yet the ATF will not approve the form for them. Its a huge political and legal mess.

  3. Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner Says:

    USC, Title 15, Section 5001, BB/AIRGUN/PAINTBALL/IMITATION FIREARM PREEMPTION. “…no state shall…prohibit the sale (other than prohibiting the sale to minors) of traditional BB, paint ball or pellet- firing air guns that expel a projectile through the force of air pressure.” http://www.beemans.net/airguns_protected_from_state_reg.htm

  4. Mikee Says:

    But they aren’t regulating the airgun, they are going after the unregistered suppressor.

    Of course, one cannot get the suppressor registered, since there is no firearm to go along with it.

    Makes perfect sense from a bureaucratic mindset.

    I believe this issue is covered under rule Catch-22.

  5. Robb Allen Says:

    Mikee, in order to have a suppressor, you must register it against a particular firearm? Even if it’s a screw on model that you might want to use on several firearms?

  6. ATL Says:

    Ok for the record, does anybody still live in Michigan that doesn’t rape, rob, and pillage?

  7. nk Says:

    It’s Gatmo creating a gimmick. And buyers and the State of Michigan falling for it. There’s nothing to suppress.

  8. nk Says:

    “Reduced noise”, “Recoil”, “Muzzle blast”? From a #$%^&&* BB-gun? Cut me some slack.

  9. comatus Says:

    nk, feast your eyes on a #$%^&&* BB-gun:

    http://www.quackenbushairguns.com/outlaws.html

    That’s a .457 slack-cutter he’s got there.

  10. bob r Says:

    The full statute preempting state “prohibition” can be seen here: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode15/usc_sec_15_00005001—-000-.html

    Note that what is preempted is _prohibiting_ the sale of pellet guns to people who are not minors. It does not say that the state cannot classify a pellet gun as a “firearm” and “regulate” the sale of same — which appears to be exactly what the state of Michigan has done.

  11. Adam Says:

    MCL 750.222

    (d) “Firearm” means a weapon from which a dangerous projectile may be propelled by an explosive, or by gas or air.”

    Check. The Whisper propels a projectile by air.

    “Firearm does not include a smooth bore rifle or handgun designed and manufactured exclusively for propelling by a spring, or by gas or air, BB’s not exceeding .177 caliber. ”

    It’s not excluded because it’s not smooth-bore, and it doesn’t shoot BBs.
    It’s Rifled, and it fires lead (or alloy) bullets.

    Where’s the confusion?

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