Wisconsin Thoughts
So, you can take on a major union and win. Good. Turns out, people favor job growth, balanced budgets and not paying for other peoples’ stuff. Who knew?
Lots of whining that democracy is dead since more people voted the way democrats don’t like. This is why they are the Democrat party and not the Democratic party.
Wonder how these violent liberals threatening to kill Walker feel about gun laws?
Rumors of people being bused in from out of state to vote. Of course, there were unions involved.
Seen on facebook:
Why did the lefty cry himself to sleep?
He can’t recall.
June 6th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
But, but, but I keep getting told that we’re the violent ones! This makes no sense! Unpossible! Divide by zero!
June 6th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
There was a major discrepancy in total raised dollars between the candidates. A huge portion of whichcame from out of state, and Walker was not bound by the $10K/donor rule that his challenger was. I have some issues with the results as well. It certainly implies that it is possible to buy an election, but hey, we already knew that.
I’d like to see a court ruling that prohibited use of money raised out of state for all elections. This is kind of a no-brainer for a state level election, but it would be interesting to see it extended to Presidential elections as well. I’d like to see a listing of dollars raised in all states for a Presidential election beside how much was spent in each state.
June 6th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
I agree Chris. If Obama had to spend all that Hollywood, Greenie, and Wallstreet money in California and New York only, he’d really be fucked.
I’d say a bigger factor in Wisconsin is that pre-2010 polls showed only about 10% of Wisconsin’s business owners believed they were in a good business market, and now it is about 94%.
Also, was there anything preventing out-of-state donations for the challenger?
June 6th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
@Chris P So basically you don’t support free speech. That is all the money is, someone buy advertisements. At the end of the day it is still up to the voters to decide. I suppose you would want to ban all commercial advertisements then as you must be compelled to buy every product that you see on TV?
If I spend money in another state to advocate for a position so what, the voters can still say that my position is asinine and ignore my ads. As long as there aren’t dead people and people from out of state voting I fail to see what the issue is. To follow the logical conclusion of your argument you have to believe that people are forced to do what they see in ads instead of being made aware of a choice.
June 6th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Chris, add up the money paid for all the union organizers and campaign workers on the left and get back to me on who spent more out-of-state money on this recall.
Spoiler: it wasn’t Walker.
June 6th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Chris P: We have something like that here in NJ, but big $$ donors just donate to either the DNC or the RNC, then those org’s funnel to the election race.
June 6th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
The Challenger got plenty of out of state help… Good old axlerod commented about it..
June 6th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Wonder how these violent liberals threatening to kill Walker feel about gun laws?
That particular sort of Progressive is almost always for them, because plainly everyone else is like them and thus turns political defeat into homicidal rage.
(I also disagree with Chris all around, and point out that a I don’t think a State Court could do that under current precedent.
If donations are speech, they can’t stop them because they’re “from outside” – the First Amendment doesn’t care about that.
If donations aren’t speech, they must be commerce, I assume (it’s hard to imagine what else they’d be if they’re not essentially speech) – and only Congress can regulate Interstate Commerce.)
June 6th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Many of those death threats were legally actionable. From what I’ve seen, usually people spouting off about wanting a politician to die are smart enough to not actually make a direct threat (they say things like “I hope someone kills ____”, etc.) Not these morons. I think several lefties are going to be seeing the inside of a jail cell.
June 6th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Don’t be silly Rob, the only time that stuff matters is if a conservative says it. They’re just venting, and would never riot or loot or follow through with the threats. Nope, not those level headed guys, they’re all on a perfectly even keel.
June 6th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Ted’s right. Now, all these right-leaning fellas reading those tweets, who knows if it will set them off!
June 6th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Democracy is dead every time the communists/parasites lose an election. This has been going on for years. Using their reasoning, which says for example that the people can’t be trusted with education and so the government must do it, the people can’t be trusted with guns and so the government must own them all, they’ll eventually decide that the people can’t be trusted to vote and so the government must decide everything instead. Then democracy will be alive again.
June 6th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
I’m reminded of a quote from several years ago:
a href=”http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2005/06/democrats-and-dictators.html”>If there’s any universal truth these days it’s only Democrats and Dictators are afraid of elections.
June 6th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
The idea that allowing someone to purchase airtime on TV or radio, pay printers to print flyers or to create a video viewable on the internet is the same as “buying an election” is a stupid piece of propaganda.
Speech is speech. Speech is ideas.
Buying an election is paying voters to vote, paying poll workers to fix ballots and paying election judges not to count them.
If you are afraid of ideas, you hate democracy.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Chris is right. I had to stand in line behind a pile of cash that must have voted a whole bunch of times while I waited.
Oh wait. Chris is just spewing lib talking points and is in denial that people actually LIKE what Walker is doing. Dude, he won the first time, and he won again. Rationalize it however you want, but in the end, the voters WANT Walker.
June 7th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Good for Wisconsin. Now they need to reign in those “public safety” unions that got exempted the first time. Hope they get police and fire salaries and benefits under control!
June 7th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Now they need to reign in those “public safety” unions that got exempted the first time.
If this were ever about cost savings, Walker would have included them right away. But their membership leans strongly Republican, so there’s Norfolk & Waypal he’s going to touch them.
I agree with you, though: if you’re going to argue that public sector unions are Teh 3vil, at least have the balls to go after ALL of them.