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The NRA announced an agreement with New Orleans regarding the gun confiscations:

NRA has negotiated an agreement with New Orleans regarding the firearms seized from lawful firearm owners during and after Hurricane Katrina. The issue is pending before the federal court in the case NRA v. Mayor Ray Nagin. On March 15, 2006, lawyers for both sides informed the court that positive settlement negotiations were occurring.

I want the details. And those details better include no less than some folks going to jail over it. If it’s merely that the city agrees to return the weapons, it’s not good enough. The NRA has them over a barrel and they should act like it.

They also tell folks who had their guns taken how to go about getting them back.

9 Responses to “I want details”

  1. Heartless Libertarian Says:

    The settlement should not only include people going to jail, up to and including Mayor Nagin and/or Gov. Blanco if it went that far up, for civil rights violations, but it should include restitution paid, per gun, per day, to every lawful gun owner who had his/her gun(s) taken away.

  2. Manish Says:

    And those details better include no less than some folks going to jail over it.

    AFAIK, you can’t send someone to jail in a civil case.

  3. countertop Says:

    You can bring criminal charges for violations of civil rights.

    18 USC 241

    If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or

    If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—

    They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

  4. countertop Says:

    Uh, that section is titled “Conspiracy against rights”

    Should have included it in my comment

  5. Xrlq Says:

    Manish is right; prison is far-fetched, but serious monetary damages are not.

  6. chris Says:

    I would like to see severe consequences, which would include a formal unconditional apology by Nagin, Blanco and Landrieu.

    Nonetheless, we shouldn’t be hard on the NRA on this matter.

    This is exactly the kind of issue that the NRA should be addressing, and it jumped on it like a duck on a junebug.

    I was impressed with its performance on this problem.

  7. Standard Mischief Says:

    The SAF have almost the same data on their main page.

    http://www.saf.org/

    It’s right under their filing for overturning the san fran gun ban, at least as of today. In addition to the link to the instructions, they also provide a number of PDFs of filed court papers. I am constantly impressed by what SAF does in it’s press releases.

  8. countertop Says:

    Lots of people keep complaining (elsewhere in the blogsphere) that while the SAF has also mentioned the efforts of the NRA in its press releases on the matter, the NRA doesn’t mention the SAF.

    My question for this group is – if the NRA wasn’t involved, do you think the SAF by itself would stand any chance of succeding in this matter?

  9. Standard Mischief Says:

    My question for this group is – if the NRA wasn’t involved, do you think the SAF by itself would stand any chance of succeding in this matter?

    Throughout this whole ordeal, the NRA has had the cash, and the SAF seems to have the balls. If that’s what it takes, that’s what it takes. I’ve already told the NRA not one more penny until they repeal me some laws (or at least do something radical like “uncurve” the fracking “grading scale”. As is, we should have enough A and B congress-critters to roll stuff back to before ’68)

    I don’t know where the SAF was during the Beltway Sniper Shootings, but there was no gorilla, 800 lb or otherwise, that came to the aid of gun owners who had their firearm seized during that little fun 6 weeks. The NRA still wants to pretend that never happened, along with the CCW people in Ohio who marched while open carrying to get a “shall issue” law passed. (NRA: when I read stuff like this elsewhere, and it never comes up at all in the cute little rag you send to my mailbox, you go down a notch in my book)

    Perhaps one could argue that the world needed three things. A group with the cash, a group with balls, and a blogsphere that reached critical mass, ready, willing, and able to redistribute video clips that would piss off and fire up the pajama media. Heck, I got off my duff and threw my blog up over shear frustration over seeing the jackbooted thugs squat in New Orleans, going door to door to steal peoples guns.

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