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Shotty v. Carbine

Tam has some wise words on the topic. I’m likely to go with carbine and it’s not that I think shotties are bad. My shotty is too long. And, at casa de unc, I have a sooper seekrit area where I keep an AR-15 accessible within a few seconds but you’d never know it was there. And my shotty is definitely too long for that location.

9 Responses to “Shotty v. Carbine”

  1. SPQR Says:

    The bottom line for me is that my wife can get hits with the carbine but won’t shoot the shotgun enough to get confident with it.

  2. Tam Says:

    Real proficiency with the gauge is a lot harder to acquire and maintain, and generally requires teaching by someone who specializes in the topic. The proper “push-pull” is not intuitive at all.

  3. Oleg Volk Says:

    The shift from shotguns to rifles in the US seems to be mainly the function of perception of how often cops barge into wrong homes. Rifles usually get through the armor, shotguns usually fail (though they make headshots slightly easier). The actual frequency of no-knocks may or may not warrant the switch-over, but the perception is shaping it.

  4. Tam Says:


  5. SPQR Says:

    Well…. That’s a new one for me Oleg.

  6. JTC Says:

    @Oleg, holy shit, any cites? Hope not!

  7. Oleg Volk Says:

    From informal conversation with people. The shift seemed to have mostly happened in the late 90s.

  8. JTC Says:

    Ah, well that time frame might help explain that particular suburban myth…

    I was still a pretty active FFL in those mid-ban days and clearly recall quite a lot of reckless if understandable comments from customers about how they were ready for the jack-booted fed thugs coming for their banned hardware, utilizing said banned hardware itself.

    Think maybe the meme got transposed to all popo raids in the midst of the verbal firestorms.

  9. Oleg Volk Says:

    That was pretty much the way it went, I think.