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Almost the pinnacle of Kool Aid drinking

I have a set. Going for the full house:

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Yes, I went and added a Smith and Wesson M&P22 to the kool aid pitcher.

Initial impressions (bear in mind I haven’t shot it yet):

Good:

  • Ergonomically like the other M&Ps I have
  • Upped magazine capacity to 12, from the original 10
  • Did I mention it feels like my M&Ps?
  • Threaded barrel for suppressor
  • Trigger is sort of M&Pish
  • Meh:

  • Manual safety.
  • Magazine disconnect safety.
  • Only one magazine.
  • Basically, it’s a Walther P22 with a new coat of paint and exterior.
  • Can’t drop Apex parts into it.
  • I may wish that conversion kit I wanted came out sooner.

    13 Responses to “Almost the pinnacle of Kool Aid drinking”

    1. Scott M Says:

      Tam seems to like hers, I’m planning on getting one and since I actually bought a 9 with the thumb safety I’m okay with the .22 having one too. Being a long time 1911 guy I figured I’d keep things the same until I decided if I wanted to stick with a polymer framed gun for carry purposes.

    2. Austrian Anarchy Says:

      I still haven’t warmed up to all that plastic on pistols. Then again, I thought it was weird on shotguns too and then I bought a Benelli Nova and a SAIGA-12.

    3. wizardpc Says:

      I like mine. Keep it clean, though. Especially when you use the can.

    4. SE Says:

      The M&P 22 is pretty good for low-cost training. Same holster, similar grip feel. Relatively loud for a 22 and it has some decent movement and slight muzzle rise, so it doesn’t feel like shooting a cap gun (like my Ruger with a bull barrel).

      But, the safety is quite annoying. Several times I’ve forgotten to disable the safety, since I’m just not used to it on the M&P. And it’s very stiff, so it is nowhere near as easy as clicking off a 1911 safety–you really have to push it down all the way.

      The trigger isn’t great, but it isn’t horrible.

      Since the magazines are a different size than normal M&P mags, I can’t use my kydex mag pouches–I need to find some alternative.

      And I’m not a fan of the sights. I’d like to replace them, but I haven’t looked to see if there are any alternatives available.

      But despite the minor issues, given the cost of ammo, it is great to be able to shoot 400 rounds of 22LR instead of 9mm or 40 during a class, using a gun that feels and operates very similar to my standard M&P. I then use my 9 for the final drills at the end of the class.

    5. Bram Says:

      You really wanted a trigger safety on a .22?

    6. Brice Says:

      No .22 ammo here. 9mm is all I can train with and only because I bought my years ammo in November.

    7. Robert Says:

      I have the M&P 45 full size, the M&P 9mm full size and the M&P 22, the M&P 15-22 and a newly acquired M&P 10. Drinking the koolaid is fun!

      I think that both of the 22 are some of the best 22’s that I have ever owned (of which I have owned not a few).

      Back when 22 ammo was much cheaper, I would grab the 22 pistol, head out to the range with 3 boxes of 550 round plinking ammo and blow through it all in a single session (multiple magazines are a must for this). I once went over 3,000 rounds without cleaning to see what it would do. at about 2,800 it would not go into full battery because of all the crud because of the cheap ammo. I dropped a few drops of Hoppe’s in it and managed to squeeze off another 150 or so before it just would not do any more.

      I think that S&W has seriously stepped up their games over the past few years and I am glad to reap the benefits of it!

    8. wasntme Says:

      I’m a Sig guy myself. I have the 22 conversion for the 226 and 220 and love em. Put the 22 slide on and change mag and good to go. Same lower as when shooting the bigger rounds so the trigger is the same.

      @wizardpc – I always clean thoroughly after using the can. 🙂

    9. jim Says:

      Am I the only p22 shooter that has safety issues? Draw and fire drills often have me racking supposed bad rounds out repeatedly before I remember proper safe position. Or when frog/rat hunting I get a big old click when pulling the trigger. The safety is exactly opposite to whatever I learned on and the majority of my exp is on a glock..

    10. Evan Says:

      M&P22 mag and manual safety can be removed very easily. there is a guy who even sell polymer plugs to fill the holes in the frames where the safety lever was.

    11. aerodawg Says:

      I’ve wanted one for a while but if it’s a redressed P22 then maybe not, already have one of those…

    12. KevinM Says:

      If it’s a redressed Walther, sell it while you can. Bought one as a present for my best friend, he wound up with another gift.

      MDS is a showstopper for me.

    13. Patrick Says:

      It’s a decent pistol to use for teaching newbies. I bring it out with every new person I introduce to guns. Never a complaint and lots of fun for them.

      It even helps teach malf drills. Mine seems to choke on Federal ammo pretty regularly, but not so much other brands. I honestly think the case of Federal I got a while back is just a bad lot. It seems underpowered and the copper plate is only half there on a lot of the rounds. But in today’s .22lr ammo market, you use what you can get.

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