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There’s not justice system, just a legal system


13 Responses to “There’s not justice system, just a legal system”

  1. cybrus Says:

    Reminds me of the quote from Police Chief Stone in one of the Jesse Stone movies: “I’m not in the right and wrong business. I’m in the legal and illegal business.”

  2. Jack Says:

    There’s the laws that are mala in se versus those that are mala prohibita for one.

  3. Ian Argent Says:

    True, but that’s a political issue, not a legal one. And if you followed back to Robb Allen’s post, you’ll note that the “just” result made carrying on your property openly malum prohibitum. All due to an illegal search that was upheld in the name of justice.

  4. Crotalus Says:

    I’ve been saying this for years.

  5. MichigammeDave Says:

    The critical difference is that “legal” is pretty well defined, and a determination can be made by reference to specific criteria, available to everyone. “Just” is a matter of opinion, and opinions on what is or isn’t “justice” vary widely, depending upon age, experience, culture, education and a host of other variables.
    Give me our flawed legal system any day. I’m getting too old to ensure my own brand of justice!

  6. Jack Says:

    A good example of justice versus legal is when a person has to shoot someone in self defense.

    Legal, yes.

    Justice? Eh.

    For example a policeman killing someone isn’t acting in the justice role even if it’s a legit, that is legal, death.

  7. nk Says:

    None of you have read Heinlein? TANJ.

  8. Ian Argent Says:

    TANJ is an expletive in the Known Space series of stories by Larry Niven, et al. You’re probably thinking of TANSTAAFL, popularized by RAH.

  9. nk Says:

    Stand corrected, Ian.

  10. HSR47 Says:

    I’ve seen various sources attributing it to the character Lazarus Long, in Methuselah’s Children and/or Time Enough For Love.

    I’ll try to keep an eye out for it then next time I re-read those books.

  11. nk Says:

    Vance and Zelazny are my mythwriters. I read “Have Spacesuit Will Travel” and “Podkayne of Mars”, for Battle of the Books on Chicago’s WTW, when I was twelve or so. It seems so quaint after two generations.

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  13. nk Says:

    If anybody cares, this is the guy who came up with the line “the right to own weapons is the right to be free”. Safe.