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AR Myth: They’re under powered.
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March 29th, 2012 at 9:14 am
They are underpowered compared to artillery.
March 29th, 2012 at 9:19 am
It’s a .22, albeit a high powered .22. It’s still a .22.
The linked source cites killing a man sized animal at 150 yards. In theory 500 yards should be possible…but that would be a shot done by luck or true mastery of marksmanship. A .30 caliber weapon would require a substantially lower amount of skill/luck due to the fact that it’s not underpowered.
March 29th, 2012 at 9:37 am
If a 5.56 is just a high powered 22, isn’t a 7.62×39 just an underpowered .30 Cal?
It would be unethical to shoot an animal with an AR at 500 yards. With an AK, it would be impossible.
March 29th, 2012 at 10:14 am
HL that’s correct. The 7.62×39 being an intermediate rifle cartridge does have it’s genisis in taking a battle rifle 7.62 caliber and using a smaller case and less powder.
Though obviously the 223 wasn’t taken from sizing up a 22lr case and poweder chage. I beleive it was another sizedown of the 7.62 Nato in both projectile and propulsion. Correct me if I’m wrong.
March 29th, 2012 at 11:04 am
.223 came from beefing up the .222, used for varmint hunting.
March 29th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
“Compared to .308”, sure.
(Critic: Are you seriously considering only bullet diameter in your analysis?
Try a 500 yard shot with something chambered in .30 M1 Carbine and it will be revealed how inappropriate that analysis is.
Especially if you then compare with, say, .223 WSSM.
Power is not the same as caliber.)
March 29th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Underpowered in a short barreled carbine like the M4. He was using a full length rifle, this is what the cartridge was designed for. Also, the range was only 150 yards, most complaints about the M4 concern making shots at 300+ yards. Also, he wasn’t using milsurp ammo was he, no he was using a proper hunting bullet, banned by the military.
March 29th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
meh. at close ranges, which is what it was designed for, it works just fine.
March 29th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
One day I’m gonna have to get a semiauto .223 or 7.62X39, so I can take sides in this argument about which assault rifle cartridge works better than the other one. Until then, I’ll stick with the 30-06 versus 308 wars.