Should I stay or should I fo?
Tam brings some wisdom on the value of, basically, getting the hell out of bad situations.
22 Responses to “Should I stay or should I fo?”
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March 27th, 2012 at 9:12 am
“fo-ing” is always good ….
March 27th, 2012 at 9:39 am
It’s called executive judgment, and if you need a gun in a place you have an option not to be in don’t be in it. But executive judgment is a function of the pre-frontal cortex which also determines intelligence.
March 27th, 2012 at 10:54 am
I fo whenever I can.
March 27th, 2012 at 11:04 am
fo real.
March 27th, 2012 at 11:55 am
I think tam is preaching to the choir here…
March 27th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
If you are armed, you have a moral duty to protect those around you. If you don’t want that moral duty, don’t go armed.
March 27th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
@ NAME REDACTED:
The “Moral Duty” doesn’t apply to only those armed. If you believe it is “immoral” not to help then it is immoral whether armed or not. What’s your definition of Moral and from whence does it come?
March 27th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Rats. Based on the header & teaser, I thought the article was going to be about which country to flee to when America has the economy meltdown.
March 27th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
fo sho.
and dusty: Canada. Lots of places where there is nobody. Kinda cold in those places, tho.
March 27th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
NAME REDACTED,
Pardon me while I note the irony of being lectured on courage by someone too skeered to let the internets know their name.
March 27th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Put very well.
March 27th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Amen Tam.
March 27th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
I thought you ment fo as in “fo-tay” (Whip out my fo-tay and…)
March 27th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Back several weeks ago, I remember a guy in South Carolina who was CC ventilated a robber at a Waffle House and he was lauded for it. So, what we are saying now is that he should have just minded his own business?
I also remember seeing some videos of robbers, who after being handed the goodies, proceeded on to witness removal stage of the crime.
Mind you, I’m not advocating just to start blasting away at the slightest provocation. But if you were in a position to stop a violent armed crime in progress, and do it without endangering bystanders, and you did nothing until after the crook popped the clerk, could you live with it?
March 27th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
“Mind you, I’m not advocating just to start blasting away at the slightest provocation. But if you were in a position to stop a violent armed crime in progress, and do it without endangering bystanders, and you did nothing until after the crook popped the clerk, could you live with it?”
Exactly.
Got to figure, after they start with the clerks, they move on to the customers…
Bear in mind, even if you don’t want to initiate the festivities, once the BG’s fire a gun for any reason, you had better be the one to finish things. History shows that if they fire at all, the end result is people get hurt/dead quite often by their hands.
March 27th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Robert,
The point, I think, is that it is the job of the individual to decide what is morally necessary in that particular time and place for them; and anonymous blowhards calling people “cowards” for doing that calculation differently then they in their mall-ninja bravado claim they would are neither morally correct nor practically useful to the discussion.
If things go well you’re the hero, if they don’t you’re the (perhaps dead) goat. Recommending avoiding unnecessary situations, such as actively intervening in property crimes with force as a third-party, is not the same as saying you should stay passive in the middle of a robbery going bad.
But even in the latter, there’s no “right” answer. I sympathize with your last sentence, but there’s an awful lot of assumptions of absolute knowledge in there that most real world situations just don’t have.
March 27th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I’m not advocating running away or staying and trying to save the day. That decision will come rapidly based on your own threat assessment at that particular time. My issue is with saying you are morally responsible if you are armed. If your morals say intercede then you will do so whether armed or not. Morals aren’t based on tools *alone.* There is always something to consider in every situation and dropping the”well, if you’re armed you must….” is inviting disaster.
March 27th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
I thought about this for a bit following some incidents I read about.
The conclusions I came to was I’d run to the sound of the guns if there was a school shooting in progress. I’m no mall ninja, and I’m not a brave man, but I don’t think I could live with myself otherwise.
Anything else, I am di di mao as fast as I can in the exact opposite direction of the gunfire.
The question I have for the Corps of Noble Sheepdogs is why exactly I am responsible for other adults? If you can go legally armed, and you choose not to, why is it my duty to step up and dance on the 2 way range for you? Like that Denny’s shooting people gave that one guy so much shit because he wouldn’t take his .380 up against an AK. Now shit, if I happen to have a deer rifle in my trunk, and I got a shot, I’ll take it. But there’s no way I’m closing on a rifle toting bad guy with a mouse gun.
March 27th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Should I Stay or Should I Go,
What if it is private property, the kind owned by you, not owned by Treyvon, not owned by his dad, apparently not owned by dad’s girlfriend. Treyvon’s dad even said he was supposed to be staying with some other relative (occam’s razor says that relative did not live here either, or they would have said he was a guest of resident… that does not appear to have bee said, does it?).
Should I Stay or Should I Go when some dude is wandering about on my front yard, the sidewalk I own in common with my neighbors, or our back forty?
March 27th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Vary liberally paraphrasing something I heard (I think it was Awerbuck) … the same people that would buy you a beer on Monday after a righteous shoot are the same people that’ll piss on your grave during the Sunday service …
March 28th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Druid,
I see people walk down the street all the time. I usually wave.
Fist bumps for Matthew Carberry and Britt.
March 28th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
“…such as actively intervening in property crimes with force as a third-party…”
Well, let’s be careful here: if the robber is pointing a firearm at someone, it’s already not just a property crime.