Best home defense cartridge
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March 15th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Preferably in a derringer.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Yes it is, but ONLY when fired from an AK. ; )
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March 15th, 2012 at 11:56 am
I came across this article in the paper-mag recently and while it’s quite possible just shit-stirring, it’s also pretty relevant for apartment dwellers or condo owners who are basically living in a glass house.
I think fragmentation might be a different story with “Varmint Grenade” rounds vs. FMJ rounds like XM193 – and the Box O’ Truth seems to bear that out, and I wonder if my Match loads would penetrate as far. I DO know that lightweight, 53.gr Sierra MatchKings loads at match velocity 3000fps (= 308,571 RPM) are over-stabilized in a 1:7 barrel and can simply break-up and spin apart in flight and never reach the target from centrifugal force, so for those it’s better to use a 1:9 or slower twist. Early M16’s had a 1:14 rate of twist using a 55grain pill, so they might have been under-stabilized.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
When is Taurus coming out with a Judge in .223 and 22LR ratshot? Cuz that would be, like, perfection in a quart jar! Or something!
March 15th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Since recently receiving my SCAR 17, I am certain that 7.62 NATO is the best choice.
March 15th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
.223 is a good load, but unfortunately, the silly – one might say “asinine” – restrictions imposed by the “experts” at BATF on short-barrelled rifles makes it impractical. A full-length barrel would, in most homes, make such use dangerous, to you and others, because unless you’re going to “spray & pray”, you’d be slowed down too much by the arc of the weapon’s sight requirements. And, too, the .223 does tend to penetrate drywall rather easily.
Although you could buy a .223 pistol, I suppose.
But as others do, I prefer a different load. Perhaps a 30.06 ?
March 15th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
I agree with the article concerning the .223 Rem/5.56mm NATO being safer than pistol or shotgun loads in a residential home. This was based on my own drywall testing which showed that almost all .223 Rem rounds break apart into little bitty pieces when they hit drywall at high velocity:
http://fateoflegions.blogspot.com/2011/02/home-defense-guns.html
I didn’t test any heavy match rounds, but one day I hope to test some more loads agains drywall.
March 15th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
CTone03 – The BH 52-grain JHP is very much like the stuff I was shooting in a 1:7 twist that grenaded itself apart before impact. Mini 14’s have 1:10 (or newer ones 1:9 twist), but if given sufficient rotational force I bet it’s ready to go off like a firecracker when it just *touches* something. They don’t call the little 36-grain groundhog rounds “Varmint Grenades” for nothing.
I’d like to try that with a real stud-wall – some 5/8″ wallboard nailed up like for real, with pink DuPont in between it and some romex coiled around to simulate wiring. Make a couple of them, and throw in a hollow-core door for good measure.
March 15th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Blunderbus–clear the deck
March 15th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
DirtCrashr,
Projectiles for the early M16s were *barely* stabilized, by design.
Whenever they hit just about anything they started tumbling, which greatly magnified their effect.
March 15th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
meh. none of this really matters. if one touches off a .223 inside a house one’s eardrums burst and one is knocked out of action, so a single round is about all one can expect to get off. a .38 revolver is plenty loud enough.
March 15th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Whatever gets the job done without collateral damage is the best cartridge for the job. Whether that be a 50 bmg or a 5mm rimfire.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Cantankerous, I recall that tumble-effect endorsement, supposedly you’d hit a VC in the shoulder and it would come out his foot.
I live in a glass house. I’m forced to just pour drinks.
*clink-clink!* Hope you like rum.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:47 am
The difference between a pistol and a normal rifle, in terms of decibles, is too small to make a difference. If you shoot either inside without hearing protection, you can expect to lose some hearing.