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The difference

Thankfully, ATF shenanigans haven’t become a something-gate. I hate that suffix. But: Watergate didnít have a body count. Gunwalker has hundreds.

10 Responses to “The difference”

  1. Weer'd Beard Says:

    “Watergate” is a place. Under the current meaning “Watergate” would be a scandal involving water in some way.

    The only other use of “Gate” that didn’t make the scandal look stupid was when Rush Limbaugh talked about Hillary Clinton and “White Water-Gate” that was just witty.

  2. Ron W Says:

    Gunwalker is “treason” since it is giving “aid and confort to their (the States) enemies” so that they can levy war against them. (Article III, Sction 3)

    Part of this is also the refusal to “protect the States against invasion” (Article IV, Section 4) to facilitate the levying of war against them by those who have been armed by our own government.

  3. Mr Guy Says:

    Gunwalker has no body count. The Mexican civil war (that’s what their war on drugs has become) has a body count. The criminals who obtained the illegal guns via Gunwalker would have gotten illegal guns elsewhere. To be clear: Gunwalker guns don’t kill people. Mexican drug cartels kill people.

    And Ron W, I’m tired of hearing this definition of treason. The constitution says “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.” The “adhering” part is pretty important. The act has two components: adhering to our enemy, and then actually acting on that adherence. (You can love the Taliban all you want in your mind, but it isn’t treason until you join up.) Sure, the ATF aided criminals, but their motives (however misguided) were not to help them. (Furthering that thought, I wouldn’t really consider the drug cartels to be enemies of the United States. I doubt they take a position on our country at all, other than as a customer.)

  4. Standard Mischief Says:

    >but their motives (however misguided) were not to help them…

    There motives were to promote gun related violence, thereby, they reasoned, making a case to end gun shows as we know them and weaken the rights taken out of the government’s hands by the 2nd Amendment.

  5. Standard Mischief Says:

    s/There/Their/g # dammit

  6. Mr Guy Says:

    Standard Mischief: Maybe so. Anyway, it ain’t treason.

  7. XD45ACP Says:

    “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God. Except for Standard Mischief”.

  8. Chas Says:

    Where’s the special prosecutor? People need to go to prison for this.

  9. Roger Says:

    Gunwalker will never become a ‘gate’, not a gungate, not a fast n furious gate, no gate.
    It was run by liberals, democrats, progressives. We all know that they NEVER do anything bad. Just ask the NT Times.
    In order for a scandal to become a ‘gate’ the perpetrators must have an ‘R’ after their name and then it will be on the front page of the gray lady, printing all the news that fits their agenda.

  10. Roger Says:

    Oops, that was the NY times, da gray lady.