You really don’t need a pocket 9mm
But need has nothing to do with it.
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May 19th, 2011 at 10:48 am
I don’t even own a “pocket 9,” and I’m tired of Caleb and Shelley flogging their weird meme over there. We’re deep into eye-roll territory.
Dude, I have some trigger time on a Kahr, don’t tell me that small single-stack nines are unusable or have poor triggers or whatever the talking points are supposed to be.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:02 am
I love how he turns right around and recommends a longer barrel, double stack nine for concealed carry instead. Maybe Caleb really is as clueless as he appeared on Top Shot…
May 19th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Oh boy, just went back and read the article again and now, in the comments, he’s calling people “fools” for buying a gun that he doesn’t like. Looks like Gun Nuts is dropping off my RSS feed…
May 19th, 2011 at 11:15 am
I own a PF-9, and the trigger is actually pretty good. Long, and it has some over travel, but it’s not exactly a huge problem. It’s my carry gun when my carry gun won’t work with my pants. I carry a Kimber Compact 1911 usually, but it requires a belt, a undershirt and over shirt, and that can get very hot in Florida summers. I also like to carry my 2.5″ S&W Model 19 in a Galco Jackass shoulder holster I got for $10 at a pawn shop (be jealous) which is very nice when I want to wear an overshirt, but no belt and/or shorts. Tucked high in the armpit, the holster tight across your back, I don’t even have to button the shirt unless the wind is vigorous and constant. The shoulder holster will completely conceal the revolver. The young, bearded guy with long hair, shorts, and sandals is not the one you’d suspect was packin’, but if that guy is me, I is.
But when I don’t feel like putting on a second shirt, I go for the PF-9, which slides right into my pocket. It doesn’t print, it weights less (with an Armalaser Laser) than my Sig 232, it’s dimensionally smaller than the 232, it holds the same number of bullets as the 232, and it’s more powerful than VERY hot .38’s out of my Model 19 (I use home rolled Mag-Lites with cast HPs). The PF-9 does have considerable snap to it, and sharp serrations on the front of the grip that you have to shave off with an Exacto knife, it’s not for the uninitiated, but most people with some experience can handle it. It’s not a gun for first timers, or people who don’t like guns, but it’s very easy to carry, and it was cheap to boot.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Caleb fires and misses again:
http://gunnuts.net/2011/05/19/you-do-need-a-pocket-9mm/
25 yd accurracy out of a carry gun – really??
May 19th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Papa Foxtrot, you should take note that those are my standards for a carry gun. Not anyone else’s. I want to carry a gun that I know I can perform with in as many different situations as I can imagine. I don’t know what my self-defense situation is going to look like, so I choose to train for the worst case scenario. If my carry gun is accurate out to 25 yards, then I know it’s accurate at 7, 3, or 15.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
I got to play with a P290 Saturday. Heavier than I was expecting, but nearly perfect in every other respect.
Some of us don’t always want (to carry) handguns the size of a canned ham.
If Colt hadn’t run into such financial despair, we’d have a lot more folks happily carrying the Pocket Nine. Price is not the only reason Kel-Tec is selling a lot of pistols.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Carry what you can reliably hit your target with.
I have a NAA Guardian in .32 NAA which I don’t carry much because for a tiny mousegun, it’s recoil to weight ratio is worse than the pocket nines, and staying on target is difficult at best. An interesting caliber, the wildcat NAA is too much cartridge for a mousegun.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Caleb, stop digging. “…you should take note that those are my standards for a carry gun.” Thanks for restating my point.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Haters gonna hate, I suppose.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
The website http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/index.html chronicles the effect of shorter barrels on bullet speed.
I favor the Glock 26 myself.
May 19th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Love how the article does not mention Kel-Tec at all. What a poseur.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:21 am
To carry concealed, you need a light gun, IMO. In the summer where clothing can be an issue in hiding a pistol, it limits what you can carry. I carry a 32 Tomcat in an ankle holster. It’s about as light a package as you can get. I would hate to have a 1911 full of 230 grainers hanging on my hip all day, or a high cap 9.
I look at concealed carry as defending myself, not trying to be a cop and engage in a shoot-out. All I need is a few well placed shots.