Cops searching phones
Police using forensic cellphone analyzers to snoop in drivers’ cellphones during routine traffic stops.
Not that I’d have a need, but mine can be wiped pretty quick. And remotely, if need be. More from Joe.
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April 20th, 2011 at 9:22 am
In the retail world they call that maximizing dollars per transaction
April 20th, 2011 at 9:28 am
It’s only illegal if you don’t voluntarily give them the phone.
April 20th, 2011 at 10:19 am
>It’s only illegal if you don’t voluntarily give them the phone.
and if you don’t give them the phone, it’s “disobeying a lawful order from a police officer”
(and I would love to get my hands on that portable phone clone tool so I could write an app to detect the snooping and feed bogus information)
April 20th, 2011 at 10:44 am
A US Department of Justice test of the CelleBrite UFED used by Michigan police found the device could grab all of the photos and video off of an iPhone within one-and-a-half minutes. The device works with 3000 different phone models and can even defeat password protections.
“Complete extraction of existing, hidden, and deleted phone data, including call history, text messages, contacts, images, and geotags,” a CelleBrite brochure explains regarding the device’s capabilities. “The Physical Analyzer allows visualization of both existing and deleted locations on Google Earth. In addition, location information from GPS devices and image geotags can be mapped on Google Maps.”
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/34/3458.asp
April 20th, 2011 at 11:15 am
>..The device works with 3000 different phone models and can even defeat password protections.
D’oh, someone ought to arrest the makers and users on a DMCA violation then.
April 20th, 2011 at 11:19 am
There is a quick wipe, and a secure wipe. If your phone can be wiped quick, it is NOT secure. There is a reason a real wipe takes ~2 hours (on iPhone).
Deleted data is easy to recover. The only way to really have a secure wipe is to destroy the phone, or overwrite the data at least three times per memory address. DoD recommends seven times. At three times no software will be able to recover, at seven times no hardware will.
If I was in a pinch, the only thing that might work is to make the phone so gross no one else wants to touch it even with gloves. You can just use your imagination on that.
April 20th, 2011 at 11:27 am
And if you wipe it after they ask for it that’s a crime also.
April 20th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
To Other Steve:
Perhaps you could secure a phone with a “Harlem wallet”?
April 20th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
I wonder if you were to “brick” your phone if this would work?
April 20th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Instead of speculating what the penalty would be for wiping a phone being illegally seized under the 4th amendment, I think people might try to demand their 4th amendment right. Without the 4th the 2nd is really pointless isn’t it?
April 20th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Nate, a Bricked Phone still has all the data on board, just the relevant parts that run the phone are messed up. Data recovery software or hardware can still find stuff.
April 20th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
One way to possibly defeat this is somehow have your phone encrypt all data, so even if they retrive said data they won’t know what they’re looking at without your cipher.
Of course to use this on a practical level might be a pain in the ass.
April 20th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
In my time zone, I just heard that Foxnews’ 3 o’clock Shepard Smith’s Bear Alert Show will be covering this story. Ooops! Guess the PoPo are going to get some Nationwide Exposure on this subject soon.
April 20th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Um, demanding to see my phone isn’t a “lawful order”
April 20th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
This is awful. We have to fight this. Better to be charged and fight it in the courts, I guess, than to give in. Only the law-abiding will be inconvenienced by hirig a lawyer, going to court, etc. but way too many of us will go along with this affront to the Fourth Amendment. What a farce. “First they came for the cell phones. And I didn’t say anything. Then they came for the PDAs. And I didn’t say anything…” With sincere apologies to the great Rev. Niemoller: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Martin_Niem%C3%B6ller
April 20th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Refusing to allow the police to search your phone with out a warrant or court order is no more “refusing to obey a lawful order” than refusing to allow the po po to search your house without a search warrant.