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XM-25 to be deployed in Afghanistan?

9 Responses to “game-changer?”

  1. Shootin' Buddy Says:

    Yes, you can see how the game changed when the Doggies and Jarhead FINALLY got the M203. They got the 203s and Mk19s in Afghanistan yesterday, right?

  2. comatus Says:

    Well, the jig is up. This is the technology that caused Mr. Clinton to send an Asst SecDef up the Hill to testify that the US no longer needed riflemen.

    Add the rifle to cavalry, battleships, snipers, carriers, code breakers, tanks, artillery, manned airplanes and the nuclear arsenal on the List of Stuff The Government Says We Don’t Need. It had a good run.

  3. Overload in CO Says:

    I thought the XM-25 was the Knight Armament .308 AR?

  4. Wolfwood Says:

    Windows and house fortifications don’t seem to be our main problem in Afghanistan. Iraq, to more of a degree, but not Afghanistan.

    So, I don’t think it’ll be a “game-changer” over there. That said, though, I can see how it could be one elsewhere.

    Is it possible that our solution needs to be a change in infantry tactics? From learning about Special Forces and learning about the importance of logistics, I came to an idea. I hope anyone reading this will forgive my ignorance.

    From learning about Special Forces, one of the things that stuck in my head was the idea that every team member had his own specialty (and that each specialty was duplicated by another member). As to logistics, one of the main reasons for things like commonality of parts and the .223 round is trying to ensure that everyone is equipped and interchangeable. I’m wondering if maybe that’s the wrong approach.

    If instead of a squad/platoon/company system, would it work better to have a wide variety of weapons more based on tasks? Just as a starting point, say four guys with .223 M-16/M-4 (or shotguns) for “bushwacking” and suppressive fire, two “designated marksmen” with .308 M-14s, two guys with XM-25s, and two guys with .223 M-16s equipped with M-203s? To some extent each of those could duplicate the others in a pinch, but it gives you the ability to fight close in, to fire past obstacles, and to engage long-range targets. Perhaps even have one or two guys whose main job is to use or call in Predators and other fire support.

    We don’t seem likely to face WWII-type battles all that often, and if we do these teams can easily be used in the traditional style. This idea does mean a lot of different parts: .223, .308, whatever the XM-25 projectile is, 12ga shells, M-203 grenades, 9mm, etc. At the same time, though, with the duplication of functions and our logistics ability, might this be possible?

  5. Lyle Says:

    It may not be a game changer, but I want one. Does Wal Mart have them yet? ‘Course, a bigger gun will work too. Are they legal for regular deer season, or do I need to get a tag for DD season?

  6. curtis Says:

    wow i thought that project got canned years ago.

  7. Jim W Says:

    25,000 for the gun, god knows what per round of microchip-filled, exploding ammo. You’re basically shooting exploding ipods at the enemy. It can’t be cheap.

    I predict this is only going to be a game changer in the same way that charging 1 dollar per credit instead of 25 cents per credit in the arcade is a game changer.

  8. Jake Says:

    You’re basically shooting exploding ipods at the enemy.

    I think I’d pay to see that.

  9. Rick Randall Says:

    Curtis —

    What got canned was that thing combined with an XM8 carbine with an itty-bitty barrel.

    You know what works even better than a 25mm airburst round?

    a 40mm airburst round. . . which is compatible with teh grenade launchers IN THE SQUADS NOW. The only alteration that would need to be done to get the same advantage (with a SIGNIFICANTLY larger warhead — 25mm is WAY smaller a payload than people think. . . cube-square law and all that) is to replace or alter the barrels so the 40mm round could be programmed for range to target.

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