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Why gun trusts are helpful

Frisco Chief of Police Todd Renshaw:

I will not sign the waiver to allow the purchase of a fully automatic weapon. I am pretty sure the Collin County Sheriff also will not. I’m not sure about the Denton County Sheriff.

19 Responses to “Why gun trusts are helpful”

  1. alan Says:

    The Denton County sheriff signed mine.

  2. Lance Says:

    Frisco PD has never been known for their intelligence or upholding of any law much less the Constitution.

    I was testing for Frisco PD a few years back and the Sgt in charge of the session said “If you get hired, remember that Frisco PD is *not* a civil service agency. There are many important people that live in our town and if you make a traffic stop on one you’ll need to think very hard about if you should write a ticket or not. Your very job may depend on it.”

    I wasn’t the only person that got up and walked out.

  3. WestBellevueDad Says:

    Ok, so you can’t get CLEO signoff on the Form 4.

    Big deal.

    Form a non-profit corp. or a trust and you won’t have to get CLEO signoff, you won’t have to submit fingerprints, and your transfers will usually happen faster.

    As a rule of thumb, a trust is easier as there are no annual reporting requirements like there are for non-profit corps.

    Any *competent* NFA dealer (03 FFL w/ Class 3 SOT) should be able to walk you through the process.

  4. Chas Says:

    “. . . the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not infringed as long a local official is willing to sign off on it, otherwise, infringement is okay.”

    How come the Second Amendment doesn’t read like that? What is this, medieval Europe, where freedom was dependent on the whims of people in power? That kind of arbitrary requirement is un-American.

  5. sevesteen Says:

    I registered and left a message directing the original poster to investigate NFA trusts. Wonder if that message gets approved?

  6. Like I Says:

    Don’t mess with Texas(?)

  7. Rabbit Says:

    Lance pretty much nailed the mentality. Incubus #1 applied for a job at the FD there awhile back. he’s heard similar statements in regard to ‘public services’ there.

    Regards,
    Rabbit.

  8. Tam Says:

    It’s stuff like this (and their “no printing” and “no guns in bars” and “weird rules about who can carry revolvers and who can carry autos” and stuff) that makes me laugh every time some Texan pounds their chest about the “Free State Of Tejas”.

    Yeah, their gun laws are better than Maryland or New York. Somewhat…

  9. Lyle Says:

    “Don’t mess with Idaho” then? I don’t thnk anyone with a clean record has ever been turned down, least not here in Latah county. Former sherrif here, and a former deputy I know, are both genuine gunnies in the threeper sense. When I went into the Pullman, WA PD to get my first WA carry permit, the chief there was making snide remarks about the stupidity of gun laws and the intellectual capacity of those people who advocate them. The current Moscow, ID (college town) mayor is a raving, slobbering leftist lunatic, but statewide she’s in hostile territory. So you don’t go to the PD in that case. You go to the sheriff’s dept.

    Anyway; you can alwasy find one LEO in any given state that’s willing to do it, I’ll warrant.

  10. Mike M. Says:

    Hell, I can get NFA signoff with no problems in Maryland.

  11. JJR Says:

    Trust me, I’m a Texan and I *know* our gun laws could be better, much better. Wish we had what Alaska and Vermont have…

    Was really disappointed we didn’t get Campus Carry the last time around in the Texas Ledge…now that’s on hold until 2011.

    Yeah, I don’t understand why we have a revolver-only CHL option, very dumb. Everyone in their right mind gets the SA CHL so you can carry both.

    I have no strong opinion on the 51% rule (“guns in bars”), as I don’t drink alcoholic beverages anymore and don’t go in such places.

  12. Mr Fixit Says:

    Trust me when I say, that Frisco is not representative of Texas. In fact it has a lot in common with a west coast town with the same nick name.

    Most of the larger cities like the Dallas/FtWorth Metroplex which Frisco is a part of, are anything but bastions of Texas Values.

    Mr Fixit

  13. chris Says:

    someone in the county should apply for the permit anyways… then sue when denied because the sheriff violated state equal protection laws…

    if one sheriff signs and another does not, is that not the very definition of denial of equal protection?

  14. Kim du Toit Says:

    Collin County signs them without comment.

  15. Diomed Says:

    “someone in the county should apply for the permit anyways… then sue when denied because the sheriff violated state equal protection laws…”

    Already been tried. Lomont vs. Summers. We lost. The remedy for this will not come from the judiciary.

  16. FatWhiteMan Says:

    TAM said:
    “It’s stuff like this (and their “no printing” and “no guns in bars” and “weird rules about who can carry revolvers and who can carry autos” and stuff) that makes me laugh every time some Texan pounds their chest about the “Free State Of Tejas”.

    Yeah, their gun laws are better than Maryland or New York. Somewhat…”

    I always thought the same way. Ownership laws aside, when talking carry, Texas and Massachusetts are vary comparable: No open carry. You print and you can lose your license, etc.

  17. doc Russia Says:

    beg to differ, Kim, but when I floated a request for a suppressor sign-off with the Collin Co. Sheriff, I was told by one of the lieutenants who answered my query “not unless you are a friend of his.”

  18. straightarrow Says:

    it’s Texas where the brag is all there is. No fact, no deed, just brag.

  19. straightarrow Says:

    and don’t give me any of that Alamo crap, Bowie was from Louisiana, Crockett was from Tennessee, Travis was from South Carolina, and most of the rest of the defenders were from Mexico who had traveled north to Texas when it was still a Mexican possession.

    Oh, and while he wasn’t at the Alamo, Houston was from Georgia.