Marketing tip
It occurs to me that the guns in restaurants bill in Tennessee has created a marketing issue for local restaurateurs. On one hand, they can ostracize gun owners and cater to folks who, for some reason, fear inanimate objects. Cater to us gun nuts. Or remain silent, a de facto cater to gun nuts. There is another option. They could put up a sign (that doesn’t comply with the law) that says something to the effect of No Illegal Guns or No Unlawful Carrying of Firearms or some such. Then, the folks who wet themselves at the thought of guns will probably feel at ease. And those of us with handgun carry permits will be like I see what you did there.
September 1st, 2009 at 9:27 am
YES! This is all about the feeeeeeelings of the hoplophobes.
Since hoplophobes don’t process information using logic or rationality, they will not notice that the signs are noncompliant regarding TN law and concealed carry. The hoplophobes will see “NO GUNS” signs and get that particular warm feeling in their wadded panties that they love so much, and the gun carriers will see a sign that means nothing legally and continue to carry.
Over time, as the issue fades from public notice, the signs can come down. I doubt the hoplophobes will even notice. Say about a week from now.
September 1st, 2009 at 9:40 am
Aren’t they afraid that the presence of knives at their restaurants will spark a slasher spree?
September 1st, 2009 at 9:49 am
Alternative #2:
“This is my rifle; this is my gun: this is for fighting; this is for fun.”
September 1st, 2009 at 9:50 am
How about a sign saying “We support our customers Civil Rights”, since thats what it is?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:04 am
What a fantastic idea, Unc…
September 1st, 2009 at 11:01 am
That’s exactly what we’re seeing more and more of here in Texas.
Apparently, putting up a 30.06 sign (only sign that actually prohibits lawful carry in Texas) kills off a significant portion of business.
Who knew?
Now we are running into signs that literally say, “The unlawful/unlicensed posession of a handgun/weapon on these premises is punishable by…..”
September 1st, 2009 at 11:30 am
“Dear cops responding to robbery-in-progress at Bonefish Grill: corporate policy doesn’t allow guns inside. Please disarm.”
September 1st, 2009 at 11:30 am
The feel good, do nothing option is pretty common in Texas.
Hey, if it makes folks feel better, it doesn’t bug me at all. People are free to feel how ever they want.
September 1st, 2009 at 1:44 pm
I wish Ohio had that option. First we need to get restaurant carry. Next, we need to get sign rules passed–“no gunz” written in crayon on a placemat is legally binding sign here.
September 1st, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Here in Florida, if a restaurant owner wants to keep guns out of his place of business, he can create a sign that is at least 12″x12″, be printed in no less than 19 point font, and contain any language he or she desires.
Because it don’t mean dick. Unless they’re waving you down with a metal detector, there’s no way to tell (no OC here in the Gunshine state), and the worst that can happen is you can be asked to leave. There’s no legal course of action (unless you refuse to leave, then you’re trespassing with a gun. A BIG no-no).
The only places that I’ve even seen a sign here are American Signature Furniture (that sign cost them my business) and Regal 20 Cinemas. ‘Cept the movie place has a 2″ sign at the bottom of only one door. If they’re not going to take it seriously, I won’t either.
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:03 am
James
An anti-carry sign in Texas is called a thirty ought six? What an interesting sense of humor you have.
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:23 am
Oops, I aught to know better lol.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:07 am
My concern is that TN law states that the sign “shall contain language substantially similar to” the text provided in the statute.
Meaning the language is not absolute, meaning that it is open to interpretation of what ‘substantially similar’ actually means, meaning that it could place the individual at the whims of a judge who may not fancy the notion of civilians who go about armed in public.
Sadly, until there is a test case, I suspect any responsible attorney would advise that, absent such case law, it would be dangerous to ignore any sign regardless of the actual verbiage.
Of course IANAL. Are there any attorneys out there who are familiar with TN law and the interpretation of that term?
September 5th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
If it says “no illegal carry” and you’re carrying legally – no signage was violated, no?