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We’re winning

Zogby/O’Leary Poll:

An overwhelming majority of Americans (83 percent) support concealed-carry laws, while only 11 percent oppose them. A majority of Independent voters (86 percent), Democrats (80 percent), young voters age 18-29 (83 percent), Hispanic voters (80 percent), and those who voted for President Obama (80 percent) support the right to carry a firearm.

Emphasis added because I’m glad younger people are getting it.

16 Responses to “We’re winning”

  1. The Freeholder Says:

    So 80% of the people who voted for Obama support concealed carry, huh? I suppose that supports my assertion that most Obama voters are idiots.

    (Remind me to tell you the story of my encounter with the nice folks driving a pickup with dual Obama and NRA stickers on the back window–it was most entertaining.)

  2. Wanda Says:

    Wasn’t Zogby the pollster that had McCain-Palin winning the last election?

  3. SayUncle Says:

    Dunno but they had Kerry winning before that.

  4. Linoge Says:

    Rasmussen tends to be the most accurate for Presidential elections, and they do not appear to have done a poll concerning concealed carry… though one of their previous polls did indicate that 75% of Americans think the Constitution guarantees our rights to own firearms.

    It is a shame that our education system has failed the other 25%…

  5. straightarrow Says:

    anybody in our country who knows anything about American civics or the constitution went to school more than 40 years ago or learned it on their own despite the best efforts of the educational system to prevent knowledge.

  6. kcom Says:

    “Remind me to tell you the story of my encounter with the nice folks driving a pickup with dual Obama and NRA stickers on the back window–it was most entertaining.”

    Consider yourself reminded. Just keep in mind that it should live up to the hype and be “most entertaining.”


  7. Howie Feltersnatch Says:

    For the first time in my recent adult life I am proud of my country.

  8. Bob Dole Says:

    Similar numbers support school vouchers, but you don’t see that mattering, because the teacher’s unions opinions matter far more than an ordinary person.

  9. tom swift Says:

    The “Obama voters” part is very suspicious. I’d believe that 80% of Obama voters believe in Santa Claus, but not that they support the right to carry a firearm.

  10. Dan Says:

    Look at how the question was worded…

    “Currently, 39 states have laws that allow residents to carry firearms to protect themselves, only if they pass a background check and pay a fee to cover administrative costs. Most of those states also require applicants to have firearms safety training. Do you support or oppose this law?”

    To what law is it referring? The training requirement or support for conceal and carry in the first place? That poll is not worth the paper on which it’s printed. In MO a few years ago when conceal and carry was passed it was relatively close. I find it hard to believe so much has changed so quickly.

  11. Dan M. Says:

    And the poll is factually challenged. It doesn’t even mention concealed carry, so it actually really lies about those states that allow unlicensed open carry. There are 11 states which have state preempted unlicensed open carry, so saying that there are 39 which allow residents to carry firearms only if they pass a background check and pay a fee is incredibly inaccurate.

  12. Crotalus Says:

    Uh huh. Think that’ll stop Obomination from signing a federal ban on concealed carry? He’s workin’ on it, I’ll bet!

  13. Ride Fast Says:

    […] We’re either winning, improving, or both […]

  14. ThomNJ Says:

    I tried to get more info on the poll and results (by State for example). Can’t find it on Zogby, and there is nothing but the press release on O’Leary. I think it is faulty – and as much as I’d like to believe it – I don’t.

  15. The Freeholder Says:

    OK, and I’ll try to keep it short.

    Around June I had to go to the hardware store for something or other. I took my Dad, who is in his mid-80s with me just to get him out for a bit.

    As we’re walking across the lot to the door, right in front of the door there is this ratty old pickup truck. On the back window there is an Obama ’08 sticker and right beside that, an NRA Annual member sticker. In the passenger side sits Some Guy with the window down.

    As we walk by, in a conversational tone of voice, I make the observation that anyone who owns guns and would vote for Obama had to be an idiot. Now I intended for Some Guy to hear it, but having Dad with me gives me some cover. (And yes, I will stipulate that I can be a relatively complete ass. But I’m really over this crap, and I pretty much don’t care who knows it.)

    Some Guy rises to the bait. “Hey! You talkin to me?”

    “No, I was talking to my Dad about your truck and your choice of bumper stickers.”

    “Whatdya mean?”

    “Well, I figure that most NRA members own guns, and you can’t get that NRA sticker without being a member. I figure that you wouldn’t put an Obama sticker on your vehicle unless you planned on voting for the guy. Obama has said for years that he wants to take away your guns.”

    “No he won’t! He said so!”

    “Really? Do you believe that he won’t raise your taxes and that he’s going to fix health care?”

    “Sure he is! He’s a Democrat! He’s for us working folks!”

    I looked at my Dad and said “See, Like I said–idiots.”

    At which point Some Guy decided he wanted to get out of the truck. My old man decides to do his best Old Guy impersonation and starts cussing the proverbial blue streak, emphasizing with jabs of his cane, telling the guy that he was an idiot, and that him and people like him were screwing up the country, and that he didn’t go halfway across the world and spend several years of his life fighting Nazis and several more years occupying Germany to have fools like Obama running his country.

    I’m grinning like a fool, because by the end of it Some Guy has slid halfway back across the seat to the other side while my Dad has vented about 4 months worth of watching FoxNews and CSPAN all over this guy. And then we went into the store and got whatever it was I was after.

    Now I’ll be the first to admit that this probably wasn’t the smartest thing I’ve ever done (it could be seen as picking a fight), but it was funny as hell to me.

  16. Cecil Moon Says:

    It’s nearly impossible to look good whupping up on some old geezer with a cane and an attitude. At 77 I have a tendancy to over-reach occasionally. My day will probably come but in the mean time I shall continue to spew vitrol. Cheers to your pop and thanks for his service. I missed the “big one” but they had one just for me in the fifties.

    They don’t call it “oxy-MORON” for no reason at all.

Remember, I do this to entertain me, not you.

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