Killer doesn’t get handgun carry permit
A few years back, some juveniles killed some students and a teacher at a school. One of the shooters applied for a concealed carry permit in Arkansas. He was denied. Good.
The shooter was 11 at the time. At first, from what I know of the law, juveniles tend to have their records expunged when they turn 18. So, I wondered how this denial would have occurred. The article states:
Sadler says the state police denied the permit within the last week over concerns about the accuracy of Grant’s list of places where he had lived.
Sadler says Golden has 10 days to appeal the decision, after receiving the denial sent by certified mail. Sadler says state police are investigating whether to file criminal charges over the accuracy of the rejected application.
Interesting. Even after expungement, fingerprints are forever.
December 11th, 2008 at 11:49 am
In Cali it automatic at 29. You can go to a judge to to ask early.
There are exceptions for some crimes.
December 11th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Can’t comment too specifically, but in our jurisdiction we execute about 64,000 adult bookings a year through the adult jail plus roughly 9500 juveniles through their dedicated facility. State statutes allow retention of juvenile arrest records until age 26 (unless they commit certain additional crimes which move them to adult status) but we dump them at the end of their 19th year. Other counties may perform differently.
We never, ever throw out any fingerprint cards (which statutes allow), and since every booking we process generates 3 sets of prints – one for us, one for the state, and one for the feds – I’m betting the state never throws their copy out, either. I’d be really, really surprised if the feds dumpstered their copies.
As for electronic prints, I suspect that, like email, those are forever as well. Every set of electronic prints we capture, regardless of booking facility, also generates a printed card for us, automatically defined by Henry class.
We keep those, too. Forever.
December 11th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Actually, in Texas the juvenile record lives on forever, though it is sealed. When you apply for a Texas CHL you are required to authorize the unsealing of those records in order to be eligible to apply for a CHL.
December 11th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Here’s hoping they throw the book at him for even applying under a new name without disclosing his original identity. This bastard should not be allowed to own a gun, or anything else.
December 12th, 2008 at 2:50 am
I believe it has to do with whether the crime you are convicted of as a juvenile would have been a felony had you been an adult at the time of the crime. Not everything you do as a child goes away.