How many lies can the Tennessean’s editorial board repeat
Cho’s purchases met Virginia law at the time, but a judge’s recent ruling on his competency should have sounded an alarm with federal officials, had they been notified as part of the background check.
Incorrect. Cho broke the law. There simply wasn’t a mechanism for reporting his adjudication as a mental defective.
Some observers have credited an emergency-alert system developed at NIU after Virginia Tech, which sent out e-mails and messages on Web sites to notify students a possible gunman was on campus, with preventing more deaths.
Also, incorrect. The system kicked in 20 minutes after shots were fired. By the time the system went into effect, the shooter was dead.
Despite the outcry last April after the worst mass killing in U.S. history, Virginia legislators are still wrestling with gun reform legislation.
By still wrestling with they mean not passing any.
President Bush signed a new federal law in January to expand the federal database for screening gun applicants, but the law contains a gaping loophole that allows weapons to be bought at gun shows without background checks.
Incorrect. The alleged gaping loophole was not addressed in the NICS improvement act. And, of course, they also lie about the gun show loophole as sales at gun shows are subject to the same federal laws as sales not at gun shows.
It is disturbing that after repeated incidents of campus carnage dating back to Columbine in 1999 and earlier, organizations continue to block effective gun-control legislation.
Can you name any effective gun control legislation? The CDC cannot. In fact, they’ve concluded that gun control laws have no effect on crime.
Even worse, some have proposed allowing more guns on campuses, under the Wild West rationale that if every student and teacher is armed, they can defend themselves against a lone, irrational shooter.
Ah, the myth of the wild west.
Bills such as one before the Alabama legislature would allow guns on state college campuses if the students are properly licensed — as was Kazmierczak.
Flat out lie. No such license to carry exists in Illinois, it is one of two states without a handgun carry law. The idiots may have confused Illinois FOID cards with handgun carry permits.
Just the opposite course should be pursued. The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence advocates closing the gun-show loophole; limiting bulk purchases of handguns, which would cut down on illegal gun trade; and an outright ban on the sale of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines. Kazmierczak and Cho each used the latter in their killing spree.
Taking dictation about failed policies from the anti-gun lobby? So, how did Illinois score in the Brady Campaign’s gun control ranking? Why, Illinois made the top 10, coming in at number 9. And did the NIU shooter use an assault weapon?
Such weaponry was illegal except for military and police use until Congress let the assault weapons ban expire in 2004.
Another lie. The ban on weapons that look like assault weapons merely banned cosmetic features that semi-automatic weapons could have. Plenty were still available.
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Via Rustmeister, who gives them the what for.
Update: And in comments, Justin notes they can’t count.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Rudy Giuliani could probably set them straight on the “worst mass killing in U.S. history.”
As bad as VT was it still wasn’t the most deadly school killing spree either. That title is held by Bath Michigan.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Not only that, but Kazmierczak having a CCW permit would have changed things how?
February 26th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Argh, stupid blockquotes. Well my comment was that:
Not only that, but Kazmierczak having a CCW permit would have changed things how?
February 26th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
The Tennesseean needs to be taken to the woodshed by as many people as possible.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Minor nit-pick-y point: Virginia did, in fact, have a mechanism for reporting mental defectives to NICS when the Virginia Tech murderer bought his guns. In fact, Virginia was and is one of the best states at reporting mental defectives to NICS.
It’s just that the Virginia rules in place at the time the VT murderer was adjudicated to be a nut didn’t quite match up with Federal law on who is a prohibited person. He should have been reported, and the mechanism was in place for reporting him, it’s just that the criteria for reporting him was incorrect at the time, so he didn’t get into the system.
At least that’s how I understand it.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
You’re going to have to check on this, as I’ve never worked with ebay, but Cho bought his Glock mags on ebay and if my sources are correct before ebay banned all gun-related items, all magazines had to be 10-rounds or less. This means Cho went into that classroom with two factory 15 round glock 19 magazines and the rest were 10-rounders. So this meant that most of the shooting was 100% brady compliant.
I have no idea with NIU asshole had besides a low-capacity pump shotgun, as the new reports of his arms changes from article to article.
So all the PSH on the AWB and “Assault Weapons” is just that….
February 26th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
“Response to Virginia Tech has not gone far enough” Yep, officialdom is still keeping unarmed victims and forcing then to stay that way for the next deranged criminal who decides to commit mayhem. That’s being accomplices for would-be criminals and mass-murderers.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Also, re. the AWB, it banned only new manufacture on those cosmetic grounds.
It did not affect ownership or use in any way at all.
(My working assumption is that the author is so ignorant he’s confusing “assault weapons” for purposes of the AWB with “machine guns”, and is thus also ignorant of the NFA’s continuing force as law uninterrupted since 1934.)
February 26th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Brady seems to support the 15 magazine limit in NJ…
February 27th, 2008 at 12:12 am
Justin, your site is still down. I miss it. I have half a mind to PM you, over at The High Road.
February 27th, 2008 at 1:15 am
I haven’t noticed, and I’m still getting visitors, so that’s really odd.
About 14 months ago I moved servers which left me with a little less control over my hosting. If you go to justinbuist.org you get a temporary page with a link to the actual blog. Going to http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/ will get you there directly.
February 27th, 2008 at 3:08 am
“Even worse, some have proposed allowing more guns on campuses, under the Wild West rationale that if every student and teacher is armed, they can defend themselves against a lone, irrational shooter.”
“Ah, the myth of the wild west.”
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/viewpoints/articles/0717hill0717.html
The “wild west” was’nt as “wild”as most people these days believe. Even with damn near everyone armed crime was very low, something to take note of antis. That’s also the reason why banks, trains, and stagecoachs were robbed by gangs of outlaws, they needed the numbers to, hopefully, intimidate the locals into not fighting them which didnt always work as the foiled holdups in Northfield Minnesota by the James gang in 1876 and Coffeyville Kansas by the Daltons in 1892 show.
Another thing about the “wild” west is that criminals were delt with quickly and harshly, not coddled and cried over. If you murdered someone you stretched a rope, period. Usually within 30 days of being sentenced. And prisons and jails were hellholes. More reasons why crime was low in those days.
I think a “wild west” rationale is what this country needs.