You don’t count
Bob Krumm on Ron Paul’s outstanding fundraising:
I’ve been watching Paul’s fundraising totals, and have seen him raise more than $200,000 in less than an hour. Very impressive. He won’t win, but unlike Hunter, Tancredo, and maybe even Huckabee, he won’t be ignored either. It’s too bad that this money isn’t going to a more viable candidate.
The implication is that, because Ron Paul is can’t win, this is wasted money and effort. I disagree. People should support their favorite candidates or else you can’t encourage more candidates who share your views to run. Bob continues:
It’s also too bad that Fred Thompson, who on Federalism (where I do agree with the learned doctor) is closer to Paul’s position than any of the others, hasn’t found a way to connect with some of those voters/donors.
Good point.
November 6th, 2007 at 9:46 am
Yes, but that is Fred Thompson’s fault. He has had all the opportunity in the world to connect with the voters by making impassioned speeches in favor of individual rights and the Constitution…but he has not bothered.
It is so right to note that the $4Million given to Ron Paul yesterday is because we want that message to get out and we might even consider going with Fred Thompson if he could get half the personality of Ron Paul and half the interest in talking about individual rights.
And, since 25% of Republican women want to vote for Hillary and 25% of Democrat males refuse to vote for her…the smart candidate will take on Men’s Rights Issues and even Father’s Rights Issues and run with that ball.
Just do a Google search for those issues. If a mainstream candidate picked up on that, he would get stratospheric results and defuse Ron Paul’s luster.
November 6th, 2007 at 12:16 pm
But in order for a candidate to even think about switching to these views would instantly identify them as a flip flopper. The issue here is do you want to vote for Fred after he changes his view from one topic to another because it is popular? Or would you rather vest in the man that has supported the same thing for 30 years without wavering, even in the face of so much negative pressure the man holds his ground and ideals of freedom regardless if the crowd applauds or boos. This is the man I want making decisions for the once great country, the USA.
November 6th, 2007 at 12:51 pm
There’s an underlying flaw to that reasoning. The majority of the interwebs ronpaul2008.com supporters don’t support him because of his federalist views. They support his anti-war and truther-friendly views.
He isn’t being supported by conservatives. He is being supported by liberals and socialists who can’t find any ant-war and truther support on either side of the aisle.
November 6th, 2007 at 12:52 pm
(Clarification: by liberal, I mean classic liberal, hence the addition of socialists).
November 6th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
“There’s an underlying flaw to that reasoning. The majority of the interwebs ronpaul2008.com supporters don’t support him because of his federalist views. They support his anti-war and truther-friendly views.He isn’t being supported by conservatives. He is being supported by liberals and socialists who can’t find any ant-war and truther support on either side of the aisle.”
You forgot to mention the large support Ron Paul gets from Werewolves, Zombies, and Peter pan’s kids too when listing the “majority of supporters”, surely you know better than to contruct a conspiracy and not include these entities.
I also want to remind you that the anti-war crowd happens to represent 70% (estimated) of the country. So in future fabrications you may want to spin this large majority into some type of alien worshiping pig fornicating Nazi’s that think that Dick Cheney planted a nuke at ground zero and love illegal aliens that kill our children while bowing down to the Evil Dr. Paul with lazer beams on their heads. Only trying to help out.
Nah, really I think the point you were trying to make is false and absurd.
November 6th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
I don’t think that’s true. The majority of people I’ve talked to that like Ron Paul do so because they think the other candidates are just more of the same fiscally irresponsible big government politicians that we’ve been subjected to for the past 15 years.
That, and I think there is a feeling that Paul isn’t really going to pull out of Iraq immediately when pretty much the entire military leadership advise otherwise. I suspect it would be a more gradual thing anyway; which is exactly how things are playing out with the greatly successful surge strategy.
Just my $0.02.
-A
November 6th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Andy,
I agree, and have caught bits and pieces of sound bites where Ron has been asked if he would pull out immediately, and he has said that as much as he would like to it would be impossible at this point for immediate withdrawl. I would even support his going to Congress to get a “better late than never” declaration of war, get what needs to be done completed and bring the troops home in an orderly fashion. I think your right on the money.
BT
November 6th, 2007 at 3:38 pm
I maintain that that Fred! is performing according to his intended game plan.
He has many months before he needs to “peak”. He hasn’t been in for very long, yet he is consistently in the top three in polling.
He may be the “better than everyone else” candidate, but that says a lot, given the choices.
I read up on Fred! when his name first surfaced and moved from Rudy to Fred!. So I’ve flipped – or flopped – can’t keep track. And I don’t even wear flipFlops – I wear track shoes…. heh.
However, I noticed that he stated that his intention was to campaign towards the people who agreed with his principles and supported his principles. He has stated that he is not pursuing the PoTUS because he is enamored with the job – but because he feels it is a job that he needs to do. And – to a certain extent – it shows in his (begrudgingly acknowledged) lack of passion on the stump.
(I got $5 that says Blount posts a response here within 5 minutes….)
(I got another $5 that his response says Ron is better….)
November 7th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
ronpaul2008.com doesn’t get large support, period. He polls at a consistent 1-3% once you get into a real survey and not a floodable online poll. He got an impressive amount of money from nutcases on one day. It still wasn’t enough money to put him into contention on fundraising with any of the front runners.
And of course I am part of some conspiracy to create a conspiracy theory because I’m a whacky conspiracy theorist.