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R. Neal:

Over the next few weeks we can expect to hear from a lot of patriotic right-wing “fact checkers” who haven’t and won’t see the movie bashing that communist Michael Moore and his manufactured “liberal myths” about health care in the US.

Well, given Moore’s willful misrepresentations in the past, I’d say it won’t be hard.

Update: Says R. Neal: See what I mean? More criticism from someone who hasn’t even seen the movie. He should have taken us up on our offer of a free ticket.

I didn’t criticize the movie, I criticized Moore. And he’s right, I won’t see it. I saw Roger and Me and used to watch Moore’s show on Fox (Revenge or something like that?). And found it entertaining. But Moore’s blatant lies in Bowling for Columbine (which I watched twice) lend him zero credibility. He’s a hack and a liar and I’d have to double check if he told me the sky was blue. Any valid point he wanted to make, I won’t see due to his reputation.

And: The most puzzling thing to me, though, is why can’t 70% of the people drown out the noise of the 30% dead-enders with facts and logic? I guess we just need to make more noise.

Well, that’s rather the problem: Moore makes up the facts that fit his story. Sicko will be no different.

Update 2: In comments, BlountTruth (not someone I’d expect to agree with Moore) says:

Well I must say I have seen the film and he does (if only for once) make a good point. Bowling for columbine was a giant steamy load of horse shite, but he makes great points in Siko.

Even if you hate Moore the message in this film has fact and sad to say the present system sucks. Not much unlike our political system money has corrupted the system to a point that we let people die based on whether they have coverage and not based on respect for life.

This movie is not based on the sad, sad uninsured, but rather those of us that actually work and pay loads each month for the coverage that in out greatest times of need we are denied coverage. I have heard more than once over the course of the last 4 weeks that we would be better off if we were illegal immigrants due to the fact that their tab is picked up by the tax payer when it comes to health care, and this may very well be a fact.

Hate the man or not I will always listen to what anyone has to say, saving enough time to tell them why in my opinion they are wrong, and on this one it is my opinion that there has to be a better system out there then the present

Hate the man, but respect the message.

Now, I thought Moore’s overall point in Columbine was a valid one. And that point was blaming video games, rock stars, etc. for violence was stupid. However, it’s equally stupid to blame guns. Yet, he spent considerable time bashing pro gun folks and was less than forthright about it.

Ok, then.

Update 3: Well, patriotic right-wing “fact checker” Kurt Loder of MTV says:

Unfortunately, Moore is also a con man of a very brazen sort, and never more so than in this film. His cherry-picked facts, manipulative interviews (with lingering close-ups of distraught people breaking down in tears) and blithe assertions (how does he know 18,000* people will die this year because they have no health insurance?) are so stacked that you can feel his whole argument sliding sideways as the picture unspools.

57 Responses to “Sicko”

  1. R. Neal Says:

    Mostly, the US shoulders a very large part of the military defense, and defense research, of Europe. We pay several percent more of DGP on defense than they do. If European nations had similar spending levels for their own defense as we do, their taxes would be commensurately higher.

    That is actually a valid point. Maybe it’s time for the U.S. to let somebody else be the policemen of the world for a while.

  2. #9 Says:

    That is actually a valid point. Maybe its time for the U.S. to let somebody else be the policemen of the world for a while.

    I am sure the Imams agree. They want to be the policemen of the world and more.

    Sharia Law will solve all of the pesky problems we have. The health care plan is awesome. You die and get 72 virgins.

    One of the two cultures must die. What is your preference?

  3. SayUncle Says:

    One of the two cultures must die. What is your preference?

    That’s kinda out there. Each culture has its own zealots and neither culture must die.

  4. #9 Says:

    I did not mean Islam.

    But I do not understand how radical Islam (Wabbism, Al Qaeda, etc) can co-exist with any other culture. How can that work?

  5. #9 Says:

    Each culture has its own zealots and neither culture must die.

    A better hope is that Wabbism could change and allow others the right to exist. The rest of Islam does. Without change I don’t know what else there is, containment maybe? I don’t like the role of the Worlds Policeman either. But after 9/11 I have reconsidered it may be the only choice.

  6. HKL Says:

    Thanks for the reference article on Moore’s “Sicko”. I sent a link to AARP after they disgustingly put an article on Sicko in their AARP Bulletin. How can Moore be given any credence at all?

  7. Metulj Says:

    Hey, Number9. I’d post more regularly here, but you delete my posts. Hypocrite!

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