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Was he lying then or is he lying now?

Rudy Giuliani flip-flops on guns, proving that, yes, politicos will say anything to get elected:

Rudolph Giuliani Wednesday sounded open to letting anyone who’s not a criminal or mental patient carry a concealed handgun — even telling a woman who packs a piece in New York that it’s OK with him.

Giuliani later backpedaled — saying decisions on concealed-carry permits are up to the states — but his answer had been different to Julie Trevor, of Stowe, Vt., at a campaign stop. Trevor told Giuliani she gets nervous every time she enters New York while toting a concealed handgun she got for protection after her house was burglarized.

Does he still believe in the “densely populated area” exception to the second amendment? More:

“As far as I am concerned, you can have a concealed weapon,” he said. “The Constitution of the United States in the Second Amendment gives you an individual right to bear arms; that individual right is as strong as your individual right to free speech, free assembly, being safe against unreasonable searches and seizures.”

Outside the event, Giuliani said his test came from a recent federal court ruling overturning a tough District of Columbia gun ban, which set what he considered “reasonable” limits on gun ownership. He said he believes that individual states should decide who can carry weapons.

Well, at least he’s paying attention. He supports the right to own and carry guns but thought DC’s complete and total ban on possession of a functional at-the-ready weapon was reasonable? Or am I reading that wrong?

Sorry, Rudy, I ain’t buyin’ what you’re sellin’.

In comments, Countertop thinks I’m reading it wrong:

I think your reading that wrong. It sounds like he is saying he agrees with the DC Circuit, which set a reasonable standard for gun control to meet. NOt that DC had met it, but what the court said

9 Responses to “Was he lying then or is he lying now?”

  1. countertop Says:

    I think your reading that wrong. It sounds like he is saying he agrees with the DC Circuit, which set a reasonable standard for gun control to meet. NOt that DC had met it, but what the court said

  2. Matt G Says:

    Rudy G. is a proud supporter of gun restrictions, and has been for decades. Though he’s done some good things, he’s not gun-friendly.

  3. Katherine Coble Says:

    Rudy Giuliani is an opportunist. Plain and simple. And I don’t trust opportunists when it comes to gun rights, because they’ll always quail.

  4. Volunteer Voters » Who Is More Republican? Says:

    […] Say Uncle is mighty confused as to Rudy Giuliani’s position on guns. Is Giuliani’s evolution on the issue authentic or is it a political calculation? I think we all know the answer. For all the talk about Ron Paul running in the wrong party’s primary is it not Paul to whom this question is to be posed. […]

  5. MuzzleBlast Says:

    Well, the mofo’s lips were moving then and they were moving now and you know what they say about that …

    The only reasonable gun control permitted by the Second Amendment (and don’t give me any of this incorporation under the 14th crap-ola) is legislation governing one’s actions with firearms not legislation governing possession.


  6. Xrlq Says:

    Countertop is correct. On other occasions Guiliani has said he agrees with the Parker decision, which he wouldn’t if he thought the DC ordinance was reasonable.

  7. dr mac Says:

    “I did not have sex with that women”.

    Doublespeak is lying.

  8. Rivrdog Says:

    His Rudiness set the stage for the predatory anti-gun practices of Bloomberg (spit!).

    The problem with these “less-than-committed to the 2A” types is that their opposition to gun control is always negotiable. Once in office, if they think that they need to demonstrate their bi-partisanship, you can bet signing off on a gun-grab or ban will be up near the top of the list for them.

    Don’t try to read gun-reasonableness into Rudy’s blather, or anyone else’s. Take them at their word, their first word, or the word that they had when they were last in office.

    Or, ask them to promise, on pain of being the worst sort of political liar, never to sign ANY anti-gun law.

    They are all snakes.

  9. SayUncle » Giuliani again Says:

    […] I’m not entirely convinced he has seen that light but perusing the transcripts of his NRA speech, I’ll say this about him: He does get the Parker case right. Of course, I’ve said that before. […]

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