First Veto
Today, for the first time, Bush told Congress no. And it was for something stupid.
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July 19th, 2006 at 3:48 pm
I agree 100%. Let’s get Michael J. fox to go kick his ass.
July 19th, 2006 at 6:07 pm
I wouldn’t call it stupid, if you’re against cloning.
July 19th, 2006 at 7:28 pm
Okay, anyone want to step up to the plate and explain this? It’s been called a ban on stem cell research. It’s also been explained as spending public money on stem cell research. So what is it? If stem cell research is so promising, why do they look to the federal government for cash? Why not venture capitals? If they do get public money (via Uncle Sugar or our local state version of Uncle Sugar) who gets the profit from the discoveries?
I’ve kept silent on this issue figuring I’d get the answers to my questions via osmosis, but every single news source I stumble upon (including this one) utterly fails to present the full story.
The only part I’m 100% ready to comment on is teh clones. Guys, we already have clones of people, and the fact that they have been around for ages, yet the world still rotates. Teh clones I am talking about are identical twins. Somehow our society seems to handle this phenomenon in stride. If we can adapt to fast forwarding through commercials with our DVRs and the associated threats to someone’s business model of 8 minutes of commercials buried in 22 minutes of sit-com “content”, handle wireless internet, learn to deal with a cellphone in every pocket, and watching Craigslist taking out the profit of classifieds in your daily dead tree Pravda, I figure we can adapt to popping out clone babies of people at will.
July 19th, 2006 at 8:23 pm
It’s a ban on federal funding to any facility which researches stem cell lines outside of those already established in 2001. So you can still get private funding, at a private facility, and go nuts with embryos (check your state laws first, please). You can’t use federal funds for that research, though, nor for the rest of your facility.
July 20th, 2006 at 4:18 pm
What is sad is not that he veto-ed this but that this is his only veto to date. The u.S. Constitution does not give any authority to take my money and give it to other people to pay for research with. It also doesn’t give them any authority to do MANY other things they do.
I have no objections to stem cell research or cloning; I do object to government funding of same.
July 20th, 2006 at 9:37 pm
I’m with Bob.
Also, IIRC, the Bush Admin. has approved more stem-cell research funding than any administration in the history of the known universe. Let that sink in for a bit…
It is the fact that W put restrictions on the use of said funds that caused the lunatic Left to go off the deep end, accusing him of “restricting” it etc.. It’s just like the Mapplethorpe art funding deal– If we refuse to use money confiscated from the public to pay for it, that constitutes “Censorship”
http://collectionsonline.lacma.org/mwebcgi/mweb.exe?request=browse&dept=photo&method=artist&searchtype=2&term=Mapplethorpe%2C%20Robert
Never mind that no one is going to stop you from spending your own money, or that of millions of willing investors, to do all the stem cell research you want. No press report I’ve seen to date has explained this. Wonder why?
July 21st, 2006 at 8:31 pm
I am gald he vetoed it, though I don’t agree with his reasons. I think if the research was so promising, the free market would handle it.
You don’t have to be against this bill for religious reasons. I my mind it was just one more thing, the goverment should not do.