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Haven’t heard this one in a while

A supposed history professor trots out the old “the second amendment doesn’t say what it clearly says” bit. That bit of creation science thinking (developing your conclusion then working backward) has been debunked rather a lot.

7 Responses to “Haven’t heard this one in a while”

  1. Lyle Says:

    Some would say that evolution science consists of developing your conclusion and then working backward. For one thing Darwin knew nothing whatsoever of genetics– All of that came after his time, so he couldn’t have known for example that the variations he saw were the result of existing genes being switched on or off, or being suppressed verses more robustly expressed. He was going purely on observations of outwardly visible forms. For another, he stated in no uncertain terms that his theory might very well be totally wrong, but they edited that out in later editions.

    Most of what we “know” comes from being told by others who claim to know, and should therefore be suspect for the same reasons we see major inconsistencies in current political, scientific and religious assertions. Frauds and even major conspiracies have been revealed before, including conspiracies and hoaxes within the “sciences”. Piltdown Man, anyone? Cold Fusion? Global Warming? “Hey; I’m really on to something…give me more money, and political power…and a Nobel Prize! No really!”

    Similarly, the Catholic Church and others have been slowly, quietly, editing the Bible (they failed at keeping it in Latin and preventing it from being widely published, so what’s left but to re-write it?), and so the authoritarian world has been fudging things at both ends of the “scientific/religious spectrum”, which some would say was a false dichotomy to begin with, that religion and science have been working together in this. That the United Nations has a global ecumenical council is another data point to be considered, and we know what the pope says about “Global Warming” plus we know that he’s a socialist, and you may be interested to know that most of the Catholic-oriented religions (most religions in the world) are now embracing evolution, so there have some things to look into, which would keep you busy for some months.

    Or you could just go on repeating what you’re told is “science” verses what you’re told “religion” believes.

  2. Rilly Billy Says:

    I suggest you actually read the article rather than claim that he is making that argument. He isn’t. Parroting the email blast you got that from (I got it too) is just weak. What he misses is the connection between who was allowed to be in a militia in the early Acts and the militias primary purpose going forward: anti-slave revolt and runaway slave patrols. Can’t have any of that shit that happened in Haiti happen in Virginia.

  3. SayUncle Says:

    I didn’t get an email blast. A reader sent it to me. And the whole thing is making that argument. Sure, he makes some different points about it but that is his argument even after he dismisses it stating it has never been resolved, even though it clearly has.

  4. Paul Koning Says:

    I read the article, or at least I skimmed over it. It’s garbage.

  5. mikee Says:

    This has been debunked a lot, but they keep doing it, in the sure knowledge that their policy is a one-way ratchet that if implemented once will almost certainly never be repealed. Their lies only have to work once.

    To hell with them, to hell with their lies.

  6. dustydog Says:

    The 2nd amendment IS commonly misunderstood. The Bill of Rights has a preamble, which is legally part of the Constitution. It reads
    “THE Conventions of a number of the States having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution.”

    Each of the first 10 amendments fall under this preamble. The purpose of the 2nd amendment is explicitly to “prevent misconstruction or abuse” of the government’s powers. The 2nd amendment is explicitly a restrictive clause on government.

  7. JTC Says:

    “creation science” does not compute.

    Science is the effort to methodically disprove a given premise.

    Creation is acceptance of a premise as an article of faith.