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The Dark Side of Training

Or, you know, the kind of stupid side:

18 Responses to “The Dark Side of Training”

  1. bob smith Says:

    I hope no one is paying these guys for this “training.”

  2. Kristophr Says:

    Bad gunner. Get off the couch!

  3. LKP Says:

    Tacticool, uh, no. Tacticrap, yes.

  4. HL Says:

    While tacticool as hell, was there anything over the top in that? (Except for him deliberately shooting the hostage…unless “H” means hostile). I don’t think I saw anyone down range at least.

    I guess there is a good chance for a stumble and an ND with all that footwork. Still a better choice to use simunition I suppose.

  5. Paul Kisling Says:

    I think shooting with the mirror was a tad over the top. The rest? Well that is debatable depending on what your training goals are.

    In this case its shooting with either hostages or in a crowd. Kind of extreme for a CC or OC carrier in my opinion. Mainly from the high probability that we would fail and hit an innocent, that being from lack of serious practicing.

    If I had no life and was crazy dedicated to shooting then sure why not, but I have a life and am not that dedicated to shooting.

  6. JKB Says:

    The best part of shooting over the shoulder with a mirror is discharging your gun within inches or your ear.

  7. Paul Says:

    Now I’m all for training, and I guess if you have been to 50 other schools this might be interesting.

    Chances of AD/ND?

    Well big boy rules apply.

    But at least, unlike another school, they don’t have you standing by the targets while others shoot.

  8. Bram Says:

    Uh why?

    If I’m going to get my old uniforms out, put on body armor and all that gear, I may as well bring along a rifle.

  9. RC Says:

    Surely this was a satire?

  10. mikee Says:

    It isn’t a satire if the students paid for the course….

    More of a fleecing of rubes, I’d say.

  11. Geodkyt Says:

    Did no one notice him shooting Mother Earth twice at the end of the video? I guess he REALLY hates Gaia and all that hippy commie environmentalism, to directly try to kill the planet. . .

    I can see a use to the pole-dancing, I mean pole target, scenarios. Not for anyone who isn’t in Delta Force, GSG9, or HRT, or some other dedicated hostage rescue team, but useful for them.

  12. Lyle Says:

    I don’t know; besides shooting at the ground right in front of your feet, and doing the Annie Oakley thing with the mirror, and the stupid, dramatic Hollywood promo music, I don’t see a problem with it. It looks kind of fun.

    It looks a lot like an IPSC match, except that the targets are moving, and I’ve always thought that “realistic” training should involve moving targets. Get the targets to shoot back using paint ball guns and you’re even closer.

    Other than the exceptions above, how is this any more “stupid” than a Simunitions shoot-house?

    Depends on your goals I guess.

  13. Bram Says:

    I must be watching too much HBO. When I saw the still I thought: “How did the Lord Commander of the Night’s Watch get a pistol and why is somebody spraying him?”

  14. Gerry Says:

    Leave Annie Oakley alone!

  15. Dave Says:

    I’ve been on the range on days when I wished someone would mist me with a bottle of water.

    I know we’re supposed to believe it was some sort of irritant, because of the grimace…but if it really was an irritant, why not spray it from the original, marked container?


  16. HL Says:

    I have seen the shoot into the ground maneuver in a couple of these vids…I think it may be intentional.

  17. Bill Says:

    Is this tactical derp?

  18. Geodkyt Says:

    The “shoot the ground” is supposed to be an intimidation tactic. As in, “Step back! Step back! Or I’ll put a bullet in you!”

    As opposed to BANG! (Thump) “Uh, he should have stepped back.”

    Seriously, if it isn’t worth putting the bullet IN the bad guy, it isn’t worth sending teh bullet downrange. “Area denial by fire” is something you do with a _machine_gun_, preferrably a water cooled one — not a PISTOL. Range is too short, ammo supply too low, intimidation factor too low (the target doesn’t really know WHY you’re shooting the ground — it’s likely to read as incompetance or hesitation).