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George Lucas keeps blaming fans

In what seems to be the trend of Lucas going batty, he says Han never shot first. You imagined it. It’s your fault.

36 Responses to “George Lucas keeps blaming fans”

  1. Bubblehead Les Says:

    Screw Lucas. Lazy Bastard waited 25 years before doing his job, all to give us Jar-Jar Binks?

  2. HL Says:

    A construction job of that magnitude would require a helluva lot more manpower than the Imperial army had to offer. I’ll bet there were independent contractors working on that thing: plumbers, aluminum siders, roofers.

  3. Bubblehead Les Says:

    Oh, FWIW, I just played the 1995 Copyright VHS tape of “A New Hope,” and Hans shot first.

  4. El Bombardero Says:

    I’m confused, does this mean that we don’t need to light a candle for Greedo? If he shot first, do we still consider him a victim of intergallactic gun violence?

  5. Wes S. Says:

    What’s needed here is a demotivational poster with Han and Greedo, smoking blasters in hand, standing over the corpse of a laser-riddled George Lucas.

    The caption? “IT’S A TIE.”

    ;)

  6. RWC Says:

    HL,

    Damn union labor!

  7. The Duck Says:

    My money is still on Solo, it’s what I would have done

  8. Stormy Dragon Says:

    I think it’s become obvious that all of the actual film making talent was in Lucas’s first wife, Marcia Lou Griffin, who was the editor for the first two Star Wars movies as well as American Grafitti. They divorced during the production of Return of the Jedi, and I don’t think it’s a coincidence that’s where his movies began to go down hill.

    Lucas is just a half-talent hack who became famous by claiming the credit for another artist’s genius.

  9. Jack Says:

    Well, yeah Duck.

    As Ace pointed out, Lucas is getting all pissy over the idea of a man shooting someone that had pulled a weapon on him and clearly stated his intention to kidnap or kill him.

    That’s pretty vannilia self defense there.

    Sounds alot like an Anti whinning about how “We’ll never know the criminal’s true intentions.”

  10. Stormy Dragon Says:

    The other thing is that the rewrite make Greedo look like a frigging idiot. If he was planning to shoot Solo with no provocation, why not just do that to begin with instead of sitting down to have a chat with him?

  11. Kevin Baker Says:

    @Stormy Dragon: I did not know that. It makes a lot of things clearer, though.

    Oh, and I own a “Han Shot First” t-shirt. I know what I saw. I have the original theatrical release on VHS and DVD. Lucas has lost it.

  12. Rich Hailey Says:

    Hmmm. I still have the novelization, and according to it, Han not only shot first, he deliberately maneuvered to get his hands under the table just so he could shoot first.

  13. SayUncle Says:

    why not just do that to begin with instead of sitting down to have a chat with him?

    Because it’s in the hollywood villain rules and bylaws. Section 35, subsection G:

    Villains must unnecessarily explain their plan before killing a major character thus giving them time to formulate a plan.

    Geez.

  14. Stormy Dragon Says:

    The conversation made sense in the original, where it came across like Greedo was trying to get Solo to come peacefully so that he could be turned in alive. In the retconned version, it comes across as downright neurotic.

  15. Tam Says:

    In the Deluxe Gold SE Blue Ray Boxed Director’s Cut, Han is going to have his blaster edited out and replaced with a walkie talkie. He’ll call the proper authorities to come apprehend Greedo.

  16. Stormy Dragon Says:

    I did not know that. It makes a lot of things clearer, though.

    Indeed, even this article makes more sense if you read it as: “[My ex-wife edited it to be] done in all close-ups and it was [delibarately ignoring my direction] about who did what to whom. I put a little wider shot in there that made it clear that [I had wanted Greedo to be] the one who shot first, but everyone wanted to think that Han shot first, because [my ex-wife knew what she was doing].”

    I see the whole original trilogy as a testament to Griffin’s ability to edit around her husband’s horrible directing. Indeed, I think this was an open secret at the time, and the reason it too so long for the prequels to come out is that all of the studio execs who had been around in the 70s new Lucas was really a bad director. Lucas had to wait until the next generation of executives came in, ones who had grown up thinking Lucas was a genius, before he could find someone that was interested in the prequel films.

    In fact, I think Lucas himself knows deep down that his ex-wife is responsible. His constant futzing around with the movies is just a quest to prove that he didn’t really need her and could have done it all himself.

  17. Jake Says:

    Of course, if you listen to the conversation, Greedo’s basically telling Han “You’re a dead man, now come quietly so I can take you to the guy slug that’s going to kill you, or else I’ll just shoot you.”

    In the original, Han then shoots Greedo. In the retcon, Greedo then shoots at Han with no provocation.

    Which one makes more sense?

    Plus what Jack said. Lucas has been quoted as wanting to make Han not look like “a murderer” who “kills people in cold blood.” Just as stupid as it sounds.

  18. HL Says:

    http://www.amctv.com/the-walking-dead/videos/on-air-trailer-the-walking-dead-is-back

    And this brings us to the crux of the biscuit. GREEDO WAS HOLDING HIM AT GUNPOINT…yet Lucas considers defending one’s self in such a situation “murder”.

  19. HL Says:

    WOW…GROSS copy paste error. Oh well…enjoy TWD traler.

    What I meant to quote was:

    look like “a murderer” who “kills people in cold blood.”

  20. SGB Says:

    Han shot first.

  21. Aaron Says:

    There was a discussion on another board about the Kimber Solo and how it had so many failures to fire.
    “I thought only George Lucas could make Solo not fire first” I opined.

  22. HerrBGone Says:

    And here I always took it that the whole point of that scene was establishing that Han WAS a cold blooded killer – even if in self defense. In the original theatrical release Han was supposed to be a bad arse space pirate that just maybe Skywalker & Co. LLC. should be real cautious about hanging around with. Otherwise why is that scene even in the film in the first place? He didn’t become nice guy likeable and honorable General Solo until much later in the series.

    BTW: The very first time I saw the film (opening weekend back in ’77) there was none of this “Episode IV – A New Hope” nonsense. Star Wars was a stand-alone film, not part of a series. Lucas didn’t come up with all that BS until after he saw just how much money he could make if he turned this into a franchise. The Episode IV crap was added two weeks after the film opened.

  23. HerrBGone Says:

    Just wanted to add:

    It was in that second cut or maybe the third a few weeks later that the line “Close the blast doors!” was edited out of the scene where the storm troopers are chasing Han and Chewbacca through the Death Star. It wasn’t supposed to set up “Open the blast doors! Open the blast doors!” as a laugh line. Lucas (apparently) didn’t want to break the suspense of the chase with a gag – so he took it out. But only after seeing audience reaction.

    He has been messing around with this film since the very beginning. At this point his trying to rewrite its history now should come as no surprise.

    I didn’t know all that about his first wife. (cocks one eyebrow) Fascinating…

  24. Drake Says:

    Han was only doing what many people, including our merry little band of shitheads here, advocate: Don’t go with a goblin to a second location.

  25. bluesun Says:

    Mal shot first.

  26. RWC Says:

    The January 15, 1976 script portrays the scene thus:
    HAN Yes, I’ll bet you have.

    Suddenly the slimy alien disappears in a blinding flash of light. Han pulls his smoking gun from beneath the table as the other patrons look on in bemused amazement. Han gets up and starts out of the cantina, flipping the bartender some coins as he leaves.

    Pretty straightforward Georgie.

  27. Ancient Woodsman Says:

    In reality, the Obeyme goverment wants to force Catholic employers to provide contraception; Tiny Dancer is openly calling for gun registration; Eric Holdme is telling Congress he wants a new AWB…and yet folks are still arguing – quite seriously – which fictional character did what first??

    Wow.

  28. Kevin Baker Says:

    I think this guy says it best:

    http://youtu.be/yiqfffyifI4

    Now that’s funny right there, I don’t care who you are.

  29. HL Says:

    @27

    I find your lack of faith disturbing.

  30. Gerry Says:

    Your jedi mind tricks will not work on me boy.
    Hans shot first

  31. The Comedian Says:

    Meanwhile, back here on planet Eart, behavior like this is known as gaslighting, and it is considered a form of psychological abuse.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting

  32. Tam Says:

    Ancient Woodsman,

    In reality, the Obeyme goverment wants to force Catholic employers to provide contraception; Tiny Dancer is openly calling for gun registration; Eric Holdme is telling Congress he wants a new AWB…and yet folks are still arguing – quite seriously – which fictional character did what first??

    That’s because none of the other stuff is news or even worth much conversation. Which comes as the biggest surprise to you:

    1) The Obama administration is throwing another constituency under the bus.
    2) Rahm Emanuel supports handgun registration.
    3) George Lucas says that you were hallucinating all this time. You were, you were, YOU WERE!

    I get Democrats acting like Democrats all the time, but it ain’t every day you get to see somebody go batshit insane in public.

  33. Charlie Foxtrot Says:

    As he was facing a dangerous alien that looks like a doggy chew toy, you’re damn right Han SHOULD’VE SHOT FIRST!

  34. cm smith Says:

    Nearly as bad as the sixth shot added to the last DVD release of Dirty Harry to satisfy those who could not understand how “Harry” could fire 5 but then click on empy.

  35. Seerak Says:

    Feh, next thing George is going to tell us is that Deckard was a replicant.

    (runs and hides)

  36. Rusty Ray Says:

    Deckard was a replicant!!! Gasp!! I thought the unicorn thing meant Deckard was a virgin…..Every day is a school day

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