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Needs to be a separate country: Illinois Republican wants to make Chicago area the 51st state
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November 23rd, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Why would a REPUBLICAN want to hand the power of having two extra Senators and increased Congressional representation to the Chicago Democrats?
This dude is on some bad meds.
November 23rd, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Go for it! Do the same for NYC, San Fran, Miami, Boston, Baltimore and any other City-State that holds the rest of the State in Thrall. Too many good people are constantly getting Shafted by those places that have rigged the game so it’s impossible to clean house and give the Citizens their rights. So those City-States gain 2 Senators and some House Members. They get Neutralized by their neighbors, which is an effective gain for those who support a Constitutional Government.
Which is why it’ll be a Cold Day before it ever happens, though.
November 23rd, 2011 at 3:51 pm
The short reason why: Because most of us who live in downstate Illinois are sick of having to bow and scrape to Chicago for every little internal issue that it’s worth it in the long run.
Me, I’d turn it into a federal district like DC to avoid the Senate issue, and I’d also go with articles of expulsion instead of any kind of amicable split: the other 101 counties in Illinois could officially give Cook the heave-ho. They talk all they want about lost tax revenue, but a new state with fewer regulations on business would be just fine. The only problem would be the initial start-up costs. Those would be higher outside of the Quad Cities and Metro East.
November 23rd, 2011 at 4:03 pm
We could give Chicago to Canada although I can’t think of anything Canada has done to us to punish them like that.
November 23rd, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Tom: What about Alan Thicke and Bob Saget? Weren’t they bad enough?
November 23rd, 2011 at 4:20 pm
I’ve been saying that myself for sometime. Chicago already owns Illinois’ senators and most of their representatives. This would give down-state Illinois 2 more senators that would neutralize Chicago’s 2. The balance of the House representatives would hardly change.
November 23rd, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Why not simply kick them out, along with CA? Then we can ignore them more effectively.
November 23rd, 2011 at 4:37 pm
No, Thicke and Saget are annoying but forgiveable.
Celine Dion, on the other hand, is grounds for the immediate, no-questions-asked transferral of Chicago, Detriot, and San Francisco to Canada for a case of Molson and an oil-rich province to be named later.
November 23rd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Bubblehead Les> Go for it! Do the same for NYC, San Fran, Miami, Boston, Baltimore and any other City-State that holds the rest of the State in Thrall…
Well OK, but only if we make Chicago the 57th state.
November 23rd, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Illinois would go red state the next day. What to do with the debt?
November 23rd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Actually, there IS a lot to this argument. But…let’s go whole hog. Let’s split Texas into 5 states too…..
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Conservatives from Illinois farm country are sick of having their state run by Chicago. I drive through there and cannot help but think how different it is from the Daley machine’s domain, now Rahm’s Realm. That’s why the Illinois Republicans want it to be the 51st state–it gets Chicago out of Illinois. But, that gives Chicago 2 senators and too many representatives. Let’s offer it to Canada. Or, let Chicago join with Detroit across the lake to become non-aligned lakeside territories. Or something. Better yet, like Mr. McDonald as in McDonand v Chicago: let’s claim it.
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Soup: Saget’s actually funny, if you listen to his standup act, rather than his utterly insipid television content.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:18 pm
I’d be more inclined to send in the National Guard to liberate Chicago. We could then either give them the option of becoming a U.S. Territory or becoming their own nation.
In response to a question of mine about the city of Seattle enacting gun laws forbidden by state preemption laws former Mayor Greg Nickels (born and mostly raised in Chicago) tell the audience that Seattle had a bigger population than some of the original 13 states and should therefore be able to make it’s own laws just as any state could. I wasn’t able to ask my follow-up question about whether large cities should be able to re-institute slavery in defiance of the 13th Amendment.
It still pisses me off that in Seattle you can go to jail for an slingshot in your backpack while legally carrying a loaded .45 on your hip.
November 23rd, 2011 at 11:38 pm
Chicago is more like a separate planet. At least they act like they live on another one.
November 24th, 2011 at 12:02 am
Here in Kali there are whispers of carving SF and LA off. kewl.
November 24th, 2011 at 12:04 am
Can we give them Milwaukee too? I’d love to shoe-horn Madison in, but I don’t think we can do that without giving up Lake Geneva.
November 24th, 2011 at 1:09 am
I used to like Boeing, until they moved to Chicago.
November 24th, 2011 at 2:16 am
Boeing is moving to the southern US.
I’m sure the Chicago business offices will be closed when the government there pulls the same crap the Seattle government did.
November 24th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Followed by the Charleston Cubs, who would finally win.
November 24th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
I would rather have Puerto Rico. Better baseball than Chicago.
November 24th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Can we seperate them, whether they like it or not? What’s the word for excommunication, but on a city-wide level? Anti-annex them? Something like that?
November 24th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Rep Mitchell is a good guy an has served our community well. Even if this is a political ploy, the idea is sound. As for the debt, split it based on population. This isn’t that hard.
November 25th, 2011 at 1:31 am
+1 to #2. And, last, but more local, let’s not forget the area between Chatoo-Te-Noo -Ga and Kingstown. We need a fence, be it electronic, if it be any other. A NICS type of background check for, uhm, anyone who should not be here LEAGALLY, should be just as easy as any other. We can use the ballot box to make this happen. Just a thought.
November 25th, 2011 at 1:55 am
By the way, upon proof-reading(K- I do, sometimes.) that comment, it was not meant to sound anti-anyone. But, alas, it did. What I ment to type was, AND(I.C.T.F.S., BTW), we might be able to sort out the kind of PEOPLE who would kill innocent people without reason. The kind of people who think that their only reason for being is to kill. You know what I mean. So do local LEO’s, and the non-locals. It is a constant struggle. From both sides of the ‘guber-mint.
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Just sayin’
Jerry
November 25th, 2011 at 2:49 am
Man! Then I’d have to change the name from WIILSHOOT (Wisconsin-Illinois Shooters) to something like CHIL-WI-SHOOT or something…
😉
All kidding aside, the machine-foo is string in Chicago – a while ago the referendums on taking 1/2 of Cook Co. and making “Lincoln County” fizzled out.
Interesting sentiment, tho…
November 25th, 2011 at 10:15 am
I wanted to do the same thing to the city of Memphis except I suggest we split it in two, give half to Mississippi and the other half to Arkansas. It would improve the I.Q. of all three states.
November 25th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Because real Americans don’t ignore other Americans who are suffering unjustly, persecuted on American soil for exercising our civil liberties. It’s easy to sip beer and slap your friends on the back about CA when you didn’t do anything to win your 2nd Amendment rights in your state.
We’re winning, we’ll keep winning, and we’ll do it despite your willingness to watch Americans have their rights trampled on.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Illinois is a state?
I thought that it was an internment camp.
And I was born there.
November 30th, 2011 at 3:44 am
Oh, hell; someone’s got to say it. Chicago ought to be nuked.