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Paul Clolery: Intelligent People With Opposing Ideas Can Compromise

I agree. Which is why we will not compromise. You’re not intelligent people.

24 Responses to “Compromise”

  1. Shootin' Buddy Says:

    Compromise? O.K., we repeal half of federal gun laws, determined by drawing lots.

  2. MJM Says:

    Well put, Uncle.

  3. Ellen Says:

    Oh, well, it’s the Huffington Post. Not even worth arguing with.

  4. Mike Says:

    I’d love to compromise. Which laws can we roll back first?

  5. Bubblehead Les Says:

    IMHO, any time an Anti says they are willing to compromise, they reveal the fact that they are incapable of accepting “NO” for an answer. This reveals what Spoiled, Immature Brats that they are, no matter what their chronological age is. Or they would realize that the words “shall NOT be infringed” means EXACTLY what it means. For any Anti out there who is reading this, I’ll try to keep it as simple as possible: No means NO! Even my dogs understand that. But if you can’t, then you are Dumber than a Dog, and should be declared Mentally Incompetent, no matter who you are,nor how much money you have, or what Societal Position you currently occupy. And if you DO understand it, and are still insisting that there be “compromise”, then this is proof you don’t want the Constitution to exist as it it written. Ipso facto, that makes you an “enemy, both Foreign and Domestic”, and you need to be prosecuted and locked up for Treason. If you want the Constitution changed, get an Amendment passed, or call a Constitutional Convention.

    And Barry, until the Federal Courts determine the Defense Of Marriage Act is Unconstitutional, you DON’T get to tell the DOJ not to enforce it. Can you spell “Impeachable Offense”?

  6. Kristopher Says:

    On very basic issues like human rights, compromise is not possible.

    I will not compromise on Slavery.

    I will also not compromise on opposing victim-disarmament.

  7. Hartley Says:

    What’s interesting is that even on the Huffington Post he’s having his ass handed to him in the comments.

  8. Tango Says:

    We will never say it as well as LawDog said it…

    I hear a lot about “compromise” from your camp … except, it’s not compromise.

    Let’s say I have this cake. It is a very nice cake, with “GUN RIGHTS” written across the top in lovely floral icing. Along you come and say, “Give me that cake.”

    I say, “No, it’s my cake.”

    You say, “Let’s compromise. Give me half.” I respond by asking what I get out of this compromise, and you reply that I get to keep half of my cake.

    Okay, we compromise. Let us call this compromise The National Firearms Act of 1934.

    There I am with my half of the cake, and you walk back up and say, “Give me that cake.”

    I say, “No, it’s my cake.”

    You say, “Let’s compromise.” What do I get out of this compromise? Why, I get to keep half of what’s left of the cake I already own.

    So, we have your compromise — let us call this one the Gun Control Act of 1968 — and I’m left holding what is now just a quarter of my cake.

    And I’m sitting in the corner with my quarter piece of cake, and here you come again. You want my cake. Again.

    This time you take several bites — we’ll call this compromise the Clinton Executive Orders — and I’m left with about a tenth of what has always been MY DAMN CAKE and you’ve got nine-tenths of it.

    Then we compromised with the Lautenberg Act (nibble, nibble), the HUD/Smith and Wesson agreement (nibble, nibble), the Brady Law (NOM NOM NOM), the School Safety and Law Enforcement Improvement Act (sweet tap-dancing Freyja, my finger!)

    I’m left holding crumbs of what was once a large and satisfying cake, and you’re standing there with most of MY CAKE, making anime eyes and whining about being “reasonable”, and wondering “why we won’t compromise”.

    I’m done with being reasonable, and I’m done with compromise. Nothing about gun control in this country has ever been “reasonable” nor a genuine “compromise”.

    LawDog

  9. mikee Says:

    There is no compromise in their direction I am willing to take.

    Is there any compromise in our direction they are willing to take? Because that looks like the only compromise available from their position of weakness.

  10. Huck Says:

    “Compromise” to a liberal is give and take. We, the Good Americans give while the liberals just take.

    Tango summed that up real good.

  11. Gerry Says:

    ‘”I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.” From the idea of the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, that tyranny easily includes the right not to be afraid to walk the streets of your own neighborhood.’

    I thought tyranny was taking away our gun rights. You know, like Soviet Russia, Communist China, and Nazi Germany.

  12. Wolfman Says:

    It would help if they could at least reference things correctly.

    From the article:

    “When then Senator Obama campaigned for the presidency, lunatics took the open carry law of the State of Arizona too far by going to rallies with rifles displayed. It made the Secret Service more than nervous and struck fear into the hearts of many in attendance, threatening THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO PEACEFULLY ASSEMBLE WITHOUT FEAR.” -Paul Clolery (emphasis mine)

    From the Bill of Rights (same Bill of Rights as contains the Second Amendment):

    “Amendment I

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people PEACEABLY TO ASSEMBLE, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” -Bill of Rights, Emphasis mine

    There is no explicit right to not have the possibility of violence in a crowd. There IS an enumerated right for the people to assemble as a group, provided they are not being violent. The words “without fear” are in no way associated with this enumerated right.

  13. John Smith. Says:

    I love compromise. Do what I say and you don’t have to die…

  14. treefroggy Says:

    Compromise involves both sides giving up something that they actually own. We have rights and real property. What do they have but second-hand platitudes.

    Keep your compromise.

  15. SPQR Says:

    Compromise is fine.

    Faux compromise that is actually just racheting is BS and I won’t agree with it.

  16. wildbill Says:

    All compromise is is giving the other side something they aren’t strong enough to take on their own. Just ask the NRA. They give away our rights all the time in the spirit of compromise.

  17. Shootin' Buddy Says:

    And what rights has the NRA given away?

    And daddy needs to give me a pony, right now.

  18. John Smith. Says:

    The Hughes Amendment

  19. Ron W Says:

    Those who are anti-gun for their fellow citizens make statements like the following, but never consider the obvious implication:

    “The founding fathers never imagined a 31-clip semi-automatic handgun, which a deranged person can legally obtain.”

    Well then, why would we allow our hired guns to have those “never imagined by the founding fathers”?? If they are to be illegal for the citizens, then should we also make them illegal to the employees of the citizens according to “the equal protection of the laws”??

  20. **** Says:

    @Shooting buddy
    “And what rights has the NRA given away?”

    They supported the NFA.

  21. rC Says:

    Bubblehead Les,

    If Obama really believes the act is unconstitutional he has the _duty_ to not enforce the act. He took an oath to support and defend the Constitution too and must not violate that through action or inaction. Co-equal branches of government and all, you know.

  22. Linoge Says:

    Gyah. We need some kind of “NSFW”-analog for links to HuffPo…

  23. Ron W Says:

    According to Article I, Section 8.15-16, the Federal Gov’t only has very restricted “delegated power” over the militia, i.e., “such part of them as may be EMPLOYED in the service of the United States, “. That is the reference made by the subordinate, explanatory clause of the 2nd Amendment sentence. All of the Bill of Rights, according to their Preamble,are “restrictive” of the Federal Government and “declarative” of the rights of the States and People as specificied in the 10th Amendment. Therefore all Federal gun laws beyond such part of the militia that it employs are unconstitutional and illegal.

  24. Kristopher Says:

    ****:

    The NRA supported the final version of the NFA, The one where the word “pistol” was replaced with the word “silencer”.

    FDR was trying to go for ALL the marbles, and he had both houses of congress behind him.

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