Hardcore
Commanding officer: So, did you get him?
Soldier: Yes, sir.
Commanding officer: Are you sure?
Soldier: Yes, sir.
Commanding officer: How sure?
Soldier: Well, his head is in this bag I got here.
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July 27th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Perhaps they should start issuing cameras to those gurkhas along with the traditional kukris.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:02 am
I fail to see the problem, myself.
As a matter of fact, I sort of like his style.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:07 am
I’m thinking the Gurkha may have had some trouble following an earlier assignment, in convincing his officer that the mission was accomplished. Sure, there might be complaints about his methods, but everyone in the chain of command is really, really sure this time that the mission was accomplished.
And allowing the Taliban or any enemy to follow their burial rituals, yet alone helping them do so, seems to me to be playing with one hand tied behind one’s back. I say we follow Pershing’s method against the Moro, and bury the enemy dead along with pigs, to emphasize to the enemy that their cause and their methods will not lead to heaven.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Ayup. I’d spin this as “sorry our elite soldiers are so bloodthirsty. Here, allow us to repatriate the head. We promise to keep them on a tighter leash”. This can be propaganda victory against the Taliban if we spin it right and don’t look like we’re weenies shitting in our diapers. They will talk of nothing else.
And really, how many heads we lopped off in Iran over the last ten years? At least this guy was dead first.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:11 am
s/how many heads were lopped/how many heads we lopped/g
July 27th, 2010 at 10:11 am
I’m sorry, the Taliban is offended because someone removed a head from a corpse? Irony much?
July 27th, 2010 at 10:12 am
“Perhaps they should start issuing cameras to those gurkhas along with the traditional kukris.”
can’t get DNA or dental impressions off of a photo. Also hard to dig the head out of a bag only to find its too blurry to use. Can collect a head in any light source and its just as good as in good indirect daylight.
The target was worth risking men’s lives to kill, furthermore bringing the whole corpse was impossible without risking further life. The guy should get a medal for what he did.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:17 am
what is all the fuss about? the soldier did his job. He did the exact same thing the taliban/insurgents have been doing to other people for as long as I can remember.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:42 am
The only story I have of a Gurkha is one an SF friend told me. They had some cross training with the Brits. With the Brits were a group of Gurkhas. My buddy inquired about one of their Kukris. He wanted to see it. The Gurkha replied, “If it comes out, it doesn’t go back in without blood on it.” in broken english. I have no doubts that they are some bad muthas.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:42 am
The appropriate response to the people getting bent out of shape over this is “bite me.” At least, unlike the people the terrorists behead, this guy was already dead.
Their normal procedure (or their orders for the mission – the article isn’t quite clear on that) is to bring back proof the target is dead. They couldn’t bring back the body, so they did the next best thing.
There’s an easy fix for that. Now that they have confirmation, send the head back.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Nato forces are supposed to be winning ‘hearts and minds’ and bolstering the fledgling Afghan National Army.
1) Got mind. Check !!
2) Forgot heart. Damn !!!
July 27th, 2010 at 10:57 am
It is really the only good way to confirm a kill; hopefully after confirmation they fed the head to pigs.
July 27th, 2010 at 11:01 am
When I was really into edged weapons, I tried to find out if there was a kukri fencing method that Gurkhas used. There is: “Just chop’em”.
July 27th, 2010 at 11:04 am
I would seriously punish this Gurkha. I would fine him $5.00 off his pay, give him a carton of Marlboros, and a two-week R&R pass to Thailand. 😉
July 27th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Uncle Jim’s unit had spent 2 day trying to dislodge a German armored unit from a French village in ’44. A British officer of Gurkhas came into Company HQ and asked “Mind if my lads have a go?” His “lads” were scheduled to go in at Midnight. Dawn came and no shots had been heard. British officer gave the “come ahead” on the radio. My uncle looked into the hatch of a panzer … and wished he hadn’t. There was a pile of German helmets in the town square. None were empty.
Pity our current crop of pols have trouble dealing with the realities of war.
July 27th, 2010 at 11:45 am
“I tried to find out if there was a kukri fencing method that Gurkhas used.”
Aim for the neck. Repeat.
IIRC it is called Bando. here is a vid.
July 27th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
This called for a demotivational poster.
http://mytumultuousadventure.blogspot.com/2010/07/one-place-brits-have-us-beat-hands-down.html
July 27th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Different societies have different values. You can’t win the hearts and minds of a society that values strength by being nice, because nice = weak there.
July 27th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
In our little backwater corner of India, a man walked into the police station with the head of his wife’s lover (who he caught banging her), hanging from his hand wrapped by the hair. Sorry Mr. Magistrate Sahib!
July 27th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Mine’s a little old and the sheath is worn. Got it in Darjeeling.
July 27th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
That guy did what Gunny Highway always preached. He improvised, he adapted, he overcame!
I agree with you Jake, they can always send the head back, attached to a bomb.
July 27th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
It slices! It dices…
July 27th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
The problem isn’t with beheading terrorists, it’s with regular soldiers of opposing armies getting into the habit of dismembering or disfiguring corpses. Yes, I know it isn’t the case, here, but it wouldn’t be very good if 50,000 American (or Brit) casualties in a major war could not be identified and their next of kin had to deal with “missing, presumed dead.” That said, for those of you who remember Vietnam…
July 27th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Gurkhas rock.
July 27th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
When the Soviets arrived in ’80, they had problems with overnight sentries on the airport tarmac turning up the next day skinned and stuffed in their hide like a Hefty bag.
I have a friend whose Dad was at Bastogne. After his passing, Sonny found a pickle jar full of brandy and ears in the attic. They were all right ears.
I have no problem with confirming the killing of an enemy by any means practical.
July 27th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
DirtCrashr #20:
May I post the picture of your kukri on my blog? It’s beautiful.
July 27th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
So a Ghurka takes a head of an already dead Talibani to prove that the mission was accomplished, and that’s “Bad”. But the Taliban and Al-Queda will set up a Videocam and decapitate a living, tied down prisoner, and the U.S. gives money to Pakistan, who is helping the Taliban, and that’s a “Good” thing, according to the State Dept.? Wonder what it takes to become a citizen of Nepal?
July 27th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Wonder what it takes to become a citizen of Nepal?
Can you live on $600.00 a year and share your wife with three other guys?
July 27th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
In WWII a colonel sent a major to see why only 75% of a Gurkha unit had volunteered to jump from airplanes behind enemy lines. The major returned with 100% now volunteering. Asked how he got them all to go, he said, “I simply explained we were going to give them parachutes.”
July 27th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
So, having done their damndest to crush every viable testicle in the British Isles in the name of “tolerance” and political correctness, the UK is now apparently bound and determined to do the same to their Gurkha allies.
*headdesk* *headdesk*
Personally, I think a lot fewer Talibani would be tempted to take up terrorism if they had good reason to believe their own head might well end up on a pike…preferably with their mouths stuffed full of Spam and their own genitals.
July 28th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
@ nk – ya sure youbetcha!
July 28th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Thank you, DirtCrashr. http://krites.blogspot.com/2010/07/kukri.html
July 28th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
“getting into the habit of dismembering or disfiguring corpses.”
Modern warfare with modern explosives tends to do that already.