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Garands and M1s

Cool: 86,000 M1 Garands and 22,000 M1 Carbines may be on their way from Korea

8 Responses to “Garands and M1s”

  1. Chas Says:

    Why, those old M-1’s Garands are so obsolete that they aren’t even dangerous anymore! I doubt that they could even kill a rabbit in the garden, though they might be powerful enough to scare one off by shooting him a couple times with one. Yup! Hopelessly obsolete is what they are. Antiques. I might be inclined to make a nice floor lamp out of one though. That’s all they’re good for anymore, really.

  2. John Says:

    From their estimated value, it looks like they’ll want $1000 each on average for them.

  3. Chas Says:

    Why, those old relics shouldn’t sell for more than five or ten dollars apiece at most! I could use a bunch of them for boat ballast. Yup! Burn the stocks for firewood and use the metal parts for ballast. Not much use for anything else. Just old junk. Near worthless, really.

  4. Turk Turon Says:

    Way too expensive, and not even lethal anymore.

    Just ignore ’em, that’s my advice.

  5. nk Says:

    My neighbor has a Greek Garand for sale. $900.00. My father carried one. It might even be his. But I’m taking the daughter to a dude ranch for the weekend.

  6. Lyle Says:

    I didn’t see any mention of the expected price in the BBC article.

    This is good news, but;

    “In the Korean war they had a reputation for jamming in extreme cold weather conditions, and complaints were recorded from US troops that they often failed to stop heavily clothed North Korean or Chinese soldiers at short range.”

    Jamming in cold weather can be mitigated by using the right lubricant. The Carbine has low cycling energy compared to rifle caliber self-loaders, and so the mechanism needs low resistance to work reliably. I don’t believe the Carbine round could fail to penetrate at “short range”. The ball ammo coming out at 1900+ fps is a good penetrator. Regular clothing, no matter how heavy, isn’t going to prevent good penetration. It takes body armor to do that.

    If I get a deer this season, I’ll shoot it with a carbine to test for penetration. My guess is it’ll fly through and keep right on going.

  7. Diomed Says:

    The “carbine bullets bouncing off Chinese coats” canard has been pretty well dispelled as being both physically impossible (I think Box o’ Truth tested it out) and the result of GIs covering up for their poor training with M2s – “I couldn’t hit them ’cause I was using full auto and don’t know how to shoot properly” is much less exculpatory than “Them bullets was bouncing off their coats!”

  8. Texas Jack Says:

    My crazy brother used to tell about one time he and a buddy were in a hole on a hillside in Korea. Chinese were charging up the hill, and one particular really big one picked my brother to spear (no rifle, just a bayonet tied to a stick). He centered Chinaman with his carbine, China kept coming. Centered him five more times, then buddy noticed, turned and fired once with his Garand, and China went down. Later, they went over and looked. China had seven holes in his chest, and one in his back where the rifle round came out. The man was dead when the first round hit him – he just didn’t know it until that M2 Ball went through him. Brother said the next day he got himself a rifle.
    I have one of each, and enjoy shooting both, but if I need to kill anything bigger than a large dog, I’ll grab the Garand.

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