I thought ‘choice’ was good?
SoBe yammers on about those darn ‘anti-choicers’ wanting to impose their will on others all the time. Which is funny, because the new guns in bars bill allows restaurants the opportunity to make a choice. She only wants them to make the choices she’s cool with though. She’s none too keen on the bill that gives restaurateurs a choice to allow the lawful carry of concealed weapons on their property instead of the state dictating what otherwise lawful activities can occur on private property. I thought ‘anti-choice’ was bad?
June 5th, 2009 at 11:06 am
And thus, the major flaw in progressive thinking is revealed.
I’d head over there and try to reason with that crowd, but I’ve made that mistake before. My time would be better spent training fingernail clippings to recite the Declaration of Independence.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:10 am
What!? You mean women should have the CHOICE to carry the means to defend their own bodies against robbers, rapists and murderers??
What!? You mean a specifically enumerated RIGHT in the State Constitution’s Declaration of Rights should be restricted or denied by State law because of the prejudice and bigotry of others??
June 5th, 2009 at 11:13 am
I read comment threads on posts like the one linked above, in the now-nearly-completely-dashed hope that I will see an anti-gun argument posted that has not been discredited twenty times over, or at least a novel idea by the antis in the gun debate. Everything presented is old, old, old.
This linked post, like all posts & comments I have read since about the time Heller v. DC brought out the best in commenters, disappoints greatly. Feelings, ad-hominem, discredited info, lack of knowledge on the part of the anti-gunners. Data, rationality, information presented by the pro-gunners. Nothing new.
I am told I am a dreamer, but I will continue to search.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:34 am
I left a comment that the assholes did not survive a armed society which is why it was a polite society per Heinlein’s famous maxim
June 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Robb, if you apply standards of consistency to those on the right, I’m certain quite a few of their positions would fall apart as well (gay marriage, abortion, church and state). Consistency seems to be a fine quality in paint and not much else.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
She only wants them to make the choices she’s cool with though
That, in and of itself, is not really a problem. She can have any opinion she wants about those who don’t make the choices she approves of. It’s when she uses the force of law to make me adhere to her approved choice that there’s a problem.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
A few, yes. Human thought is incapable of being totally logical as it is.
Alas, that is why I fight statism / nannyism. I don’t care if you’re trying to make laws against what I carry on my hip, what I decide to ingest, or which slot I want to put Tab A into, they’re all the same.
I’m against abortion, think renaming something to something it never was in order to force acceptance is useless, and not a big fan of drugs, but I’m not about to push for laws against any of them.
Because I realize that not everyone is going to have the same inconsistencies in their thoughts as me, it’s best if we’re all left to wallow in our own logical flaws rather than pushing them onto others.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Gosh you’re right what was I thinking, my abortion could explode all over some innocent bystanders and kill someone sitting three tables away.
Asshat.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Actually SoBe is right. Abortion doesn’t end the life of anyone…
SoBe, ‘splain to me how my Glock will “explode and kill someone three tables over”? Also, could you possibly link to statistics showing how the shall issue movement has resulted in thousands of innocent deaths annually from CCW holders simply losing it? Really, some facts would be great!
June 5th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Southern Beale, coming over from the linked post to comment on this thread, demonstrates my point above better than I ever could.
Robb can ask all he wants for those pesky fact thingies from anti-rights bigots like SoBe. There aren’t any for them to give. And when they think they have some, the stuff they present has been refuted long ago, but the antis are too ignorant of the subject under discussion to know that.
Based on how these requests for facts go, I expect Kellerman, et al. to break out any time now, with the claim that having a gun in your home makes it 43 times more likely that you will be killed by gunfire than if you did not have one. I note in advance of this flawed stuff starting up again that Kellerman also found you were even more likely to be shot if you rented rather than paid a mortgage, yes, even more than if you had a gun in your residence.
June 5th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Well, abortions do terminate a potential life. Something my gun has never done.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
So if she is anti-hypocrites, does that mean she is anti-herself?
How amusing.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
“Gosh you’re right what was I thinking, my abortion could explode all over some innocent bystanders and kill someone sitting three tables away.
Asshat.”
Underline ‘could” in your sentence about carrying. Of course, there is no ‘could’ in your abortion.
June 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Killing an unborn child is a choice she’s okay with… Killing a rapist is a problem.
Liberals: Maximum licentiousness with minimal consequence.
Conservative: Maximum freedom and acceptance of the inherent responsibilities and consequences.
I honestly think liberalism is a form of mental disorder.
June 6th, 2009 at 12:38 am
“Actually SoBe is right. Abortion doesn’t end the life of anyone…”
If that were true, it wouldn’t need to be killed if it is not life. If it is not “anyone”, I’m going to ask for some of those fact thingies. I’ve been around a long time and despite the Tiajuana donkey show, I still haven’t seen a woman give birth to a donkey, a pony, a subcompact car, or clothes dryer, or pine tree.
Just saying, I would like to see some of those fact thingies that it isn’t life and it isn’t human. A human being an anyone.
June 6th, 2009 at 5:24 am
I’d like to see a fetal carry law go into effect-they have the right to self-defense too-don’t they?
Can someone rig up a laproscopic sight?
June 6th, 2009 at 5:28 am
I posted something over at SB’s blog because I guess I haven’t been around long enough to know any better. Tell me if this is too over the top:
I jammed a coathanger in some gals car window and pulled her fetus out while she was getting plastered at Applebee’s.
June 6th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
SA: I’m pretty sure Rob was being sarcastic.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Yes SA, I was being sarcastic. You should know me well enough by now 😉