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KT Ordnance update

You may recall that KT Ordnance was raided for, err, well, no one really knows as it’s secret (See past coverage here and here). The latest at FMN:

A Montana gun-kit dealer’s home was raided by FBI, BATF, and Canadian law enforcement agents, after he gave “subversive” literature to his local Sheriff, according to a story posted on an online news site.

After distributing his handouts to the local Sheriff, Richard Celata reportedly got a phone call asking him to “come in” for a meeting, scheduled the day after the local elections. When Celata arrived at the office, he found the place half-full of BATF and FBI agents, who handed him a warrant to search his home. However, Celata noticed the warrant contained “no signed affidavit,” and was thus invalid. He was told the affidavit though it did exist, was “secret and sealed by the court.”

The raiders claimed five of the pistols found on the premises “were used to commit murders in Canada,” without further elaboration of details. In addition, Celata was reportedly questioned about his ownership of such dangerous materials as the Citizen’s Rulebook and speeches by George Washington. He was also questioned about “specific individuals in the freedom movement, including JPFO’s Aaron Zelman, author Devvy Kidd, and constitutional attorney Edward Vieira.” (The story notes that only by accessing his e-mail account, could the authorities have known of his interest in these individuals.) After a lengthy interrogation, Celata’s entire inventory of 80 percent finished gun frames was confiscated, and his computer’s hard drive copied (and crashed).

A few things:

Sooper seekrit warrants should be illegal

Why are Canadian law enforcement officers involved?

Speeches by George Washington are dangerous materials? Maybe if you’re Canadian.

Snooping emails for others who may be subversive?


Update: More details here:

Celata said he knew he was in trouble as he was introduced to BATF and FBI agents and handed a search warrant and a promise that his premises were going to be raided.

“I read the search warrant and low and behold there’s no signed affidavit,” said Celata.

Celata told the Sheriff that the search warrant was therefore void to which the FBI and BATF responded that the affidavit was secret and sealed by the court.

“Now they can make up the affidavit to match what they found if they want to,” said Celata as he was told that the agents would carry out the search anyway.

Celata was then escorted by an estimated 40 FBI, ATF and Canadian law enforcement agents to his property. Salada asked if he could call his wife so as to enable her and their two small children to leave the property before the SWAT team arrived but was refused on the grounds that he was giving her a secret code to destroy evidence. However, the Sheriff allowed the call to be made and the family was able to leave. At no point was Celata shown any identification by any of the agents.

The cadre of agents, which now included Canadian AFT agents, then began the process of methodically cataloguing and seizing Salada’s possessions – bizarrely urinating on the exterior of the property ignoring the two bathrooms located inside the building.

Celata was told, without being shown any supporting evidence, that five of the pistols he had sold were used to commit murders in Canada.

“I said look, guns don’t kill people – people kill people,” said Celata.

So far, the only sources (other than one media mention I’ve found) are blogs, online boards, and such. So, take it for what it’s worth.

6 Responses to “KT Ordnance update”

  1. Alcibiades Says:

    I heard that, because of NAFTA, law enforcement from each participating country can make arrests of suspects within 50 miles of the border. However, I just read this on some blog (in the context of illegal immigration and Mexican government interference) so it probably may not be true.

    I’d be interested in finding out how the Canadian government learned that those guns were used in crimes. Did he list some serial numbers and it turns out they matched?

  2. SayUncle Says:

    Well, 80%ers don’t usually have serial numbers.

  3. beerslurpy Says:

    Theyre just trying to harass him and make him spend money on lawyers.

  4. robert Says:

    Every day, like George Washington, we get the choice between slavery and rebellion.

  5. Sigivald Says:

    I’m extremely dubious in the absence of non-crazy-ass corroborations. An anonymous report from FMN, stating only “reportedly”, not even “according to [description or name of source]”? And Infowars? Saints preserve us.

    Of course, I’m also inclined to believe anyone distributing Alex Jones films is enough of an idiot to do any sort of illegal or stupid thing, but that’s just me.

    (Also, what’s “Canadian AFT”? Google doesn’t think any such agency exists… maybe it’s double super info-wars secret!

    And I believe you’re right, Alcibiades … about NAFTA not actually containing any such provision. Certainly a search of its text for “law enforcement” and “police” suggests nothing.

    Though I suspect the FBI can legally allow Canadian cops to be present and communicate with them without NAFTA being involved. Though why that would be of any use is uncertain, since the FBI can manage extradition without their help…)

  6. BOB Says:

    Hey, the DEA operates in Canada so why not?