Also, 3 questions not asked about it.

Update: Holder either knew or was willfully ignorant.

DOJ had extensive involvement with F&F.

Woe is Holder

Slain agent’s family suing for $25M.

Folks with Ds after their names are covering up the ATF scandal.

Folks with Ds after their names blame Arizona.

Investigation is a sham.

His anti-gun history makes the AZ press.

Maybe ATF could walk some guns to the good guys?

Also, gunwalker has its own wikipedia page. I did not know that.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is in charge of determining whether a gun model is legal, but the agency won’t say much about its criteria.

Despite overseeing an industry that includes machine guns and other deadly weapons, ATF regulations for the manufacture of weapons are often unclear, leading to reliance on a secretive system by which firearms manufacturers can submit proposed weapons for testing and find out one at a time whether they comply with the law, critics say.

The ATF recommends that manufacturers voluntarily submit weapons for case-by-case determination. But those judgments are private and, it turns out, sometimes contradictory. Critics say nearly identical prototypes can be approved for one manufacturer but denied for another.

There’s no set procedure, it doesn’t seem. Sometimes, they approve things then promptly change their mind. Or approve one thing and not another near identical thing. And:

Robert E. Sanders, an ATF official for 24 years who is now a North Carolina lawyer specializing in firearms matters, said letter rulings are often “definitely contradictory and inconsistent,” but are necessary because the regulations being applied are ill-defined.

And these letters don’t serve as much of a defense, should they change their mind.

And good to see firearms regulation expert Len Savage cited.

More here.

Gun manufacturing laws are quite ridiculous and manipulated by ATF a lot. Nice to see the rules being bent the other way.

Other NFA hacks here and here.

In NC, ATF will not approve transfers without an NC machine gun permit.

Stop me if you’ve heard this before: they blame Bush.

Leads to gun control debate? Why doesn’t it lead to an ATF control debate? Looks like it worked as planned, to gin up gun control.

Holder’s obfuscation

More lies uncovered:

Attorney General Eric Holder insists “nobody at the Justice Department has lied” about the gun-running scandal Fast and Furious. That in itself is a lie, as his deputy’s emails prove.

Mother Jones doesn’t care that the DOJ may have committed crimes. Instead, they care that this was brought to light by a militia man.

Ron Paul says charge Holder.

Holder misled congress.

Holder not providing emails to congress.

Of course, Bloomberg wants to give Holder a pass. It’s something Bloomberg would do himself. He’s a man who went to other states and broke gun laws to prove his point and that’s what is happening here.

Testimony gets a little heated

Holder, democrats uses it to make the case for gun control. Holder would resign, if he were any kind of man.

Homeland Security Committee to investigate as well.

No-confidence motion against Holder to be introduced in House on Thursday

From the transcripts, Holder seems more intent on speechifying against gun rights, evasive, and outright defiant. Smells of either a cover up or a flippant disregard for knowing he’s above the law.

prosecute the people responsible for this atrocious abuse of power.

Documents obtained by CBS News show that the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) discussed using their covert operation “Fast and Furious” to argue for controversial new rules about gun sales.

Holder shouldn’t be asked to resign. He should be charged.

Update: More here.

As predicted, articles telling the bitter-clingers to calm down, Obama won’t take your guns. Expect more.

And a new one on me: multiple-clip magazine. Layers of editorial oversight!

In most scandals, one can usually grasp just what the motives behind the wrongdoers was. Tom Clancy once quoted the four motives for political defectors as “MICE” — Money, Ideology, Coercion, and Ego. That applies pretty well to political corruption motives, too. But in this case, nothing seems to make any sense. Many, many pixels have died futile deaths in trying to find out just what the hell the people behind F&F were trying to achieve.

My theory is that it’s purpose was the “under the radar” gun control push. It’s the only thing that makes sense. A couple of years back, the editorial boards of newspapers were ALL MEXICO ALL THE TIME, stating that 90% of guns going to Mexico came from US gun shows or some such. And it was the NRA’s fault. It was, of course, a lie and refuted often. Someone needed it to be an issue to make a gun control push politically viable again.

The anti-gunners and editorial boards (but I repeat myself) couldn’t do it. They’ve been losing on nearly every gun issue for two decades. They needed something, any issue, to score a victory. Like the supposed ‘assault weapons’ issue, they just invented one.

Holder manipulated press for favorable coverage.

Firearms regulations are a joke.

Holder apologizes to the family of a slain agent.

House wants more information

Former Arizona U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke, who resigned in August, admitted late Tuesday that he leaked a document aimed at smearing Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agent John Dodson, an Operation Fast and Furious whistle-blower.

More here.

Well, if your agency is already breaking the law, I doubt you’d have any qualms about breaking more.

Doesn’t apologize to slain border agent’s family. Says fast and furious not responsible.

Utter, Sanctimonious Bullshit

Meanwhile, making up numbers.

Yeah, he should be fired.

Speaking of, more ATF guns found at crime scenes.

Update: Fast and Furious in Knoxville? Well, giving guns to people who shouldn’t have them is how that worked.

Update: Calls for resignation up to 28 congresscritters.

Eight members of congress call for Holder’s resignation.

Senate Unanimously Passes Amendment Banning Funds for Fast and Furious-Style Programs

Obama: Everyone but me and Holder will be held accountable!

White House aide subpoenaed.

ATF knew sales were a problem

Holder pleads stupid. Says I know you are but what am I?

Also, no: Dems abandoning ship?

House committee to get its subpoena on.

Congressman Labrador calls for Holder’s resignation.

AZ sheriff calls for independent investigation.

CBS reporter interviewed by O’Reilly.

Now, it’s running ammo.

Asked if he was aware, Obama says “Certainly, I was not“.

When Associated Press reporter Pete Yost uncritically repeated claims by anonymous Department of Justice officials that the Bush-era Operation Wide Receiver was “the same tactic” used by the Obama Justice Department in Operation Fast and Furious and other operations, I called him out, knowing the claim was incorrect.

Doesn’t fit the narrative.

Shake up at ATF.

Indict Holder

Heh: Extradite the ATF.

A read on the various complexities here. Act at your peril.

I saw it in Die Hard 2.

The big news is Holder knew before he said he did. He claims he’s a busy guy and can’t possibly read all of his emails and memos and stuff.

Codrea: The man perjured himself in front of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. That is an impeachable offense and a prosecutable offense.

Fast and felonius.

Holder Lied, People Died

Boot the ATF

The White House did know.

Cover up

Unraveling

Obama evades questions from latino media.

Informants not only used tax payer money to buy guns for cartels, they also bought drugs.

The federal government considers all users of medical marijuana unlawful, no matter what state law says.

Generally, the government considers us criminals anyway.

I would answer the question with a no, personally, since someone with their card is not an unlawful user.

IBD: Again, Fast and Furious was no botched sting operation. The ATF simply didn’t “lose track” of thousands of weapons. We believe this was a planned and premeditated attempt to further the administration’s gun-control agenda and its claim that violence in Mexico was our fault.

Yup. Is the media ignoring or covering up?

Obama’s Watergate? No, Watergate had no body count.

Issa favors special investigator

Body count grows, so does cover up

When is a scandal a scandal?

CBS News has obtained secretly recorded conversations that raise questions as to whether some evidence is being withheld in the murder of a Border Patrol agent.

More ATF guns, more crime: guns linked to three more murders.