Archive for the 'ATF' Category

September 24, 2014

ATF asking about internet sales on forms

From John Richardson:

It is within this context that I was surprised by a new question on the ATF Form 8 ((5320.11) Part II. This form is for the renewal of a Federal Firearms License I have circled it in the photo below. Having had my Curios & Relics FFL for going on 18 years, this will make my sixth renewal of my collector’s license. My last renewal was in 2011 and it did not have this question on it.

September 21, 2014

They’ve been doing this for years

ATF using onerous regs to shut down gun dealers? Even those with a 99.9% rate of filling out paper work correctly.

September 18, 2014

Well, they are colossal fuck ups

Legislation Introduced to Eliminate ATF

September 17, 2014


Obama’s ATF wants people to list their race on 4473s.

September 16, 2014

Dobyns v. USA

Jay Dobyns is vindicated.

Prior stuff here.

September 14, 2014

Constructive possession and Sig

Sig made a muzzle device that featured unenclosed baffles. ATF said it was a suppressor. A judge said to be a suppressor it had to actually suppress. Now, ATF is hitting the constructive possession angle, because you could enclose it.

Well, I have some PVC, wire mesh and some foam. I’m clearly in constructive possession.

September 12, 2014

ATF: Oops, we didn’t mean to approve that machine gun

So, someone took the ATF ruling that trusts aren’t people and applied to make a machine gun. ATF sent them an approved form 1. Apparently, ATF thinks this ruling only applies to some things and not others and called the guy asking him to send it back. Personally, I’d lawyer up and tell them to fuck off. I wouldn’t build the gun until talking to a good lawyer but definitely tell them to fuck off.

July 30, 2014

The ATF can just make up the law and the courts agree

The multiple rifle reporting requirement has been upheld by an appeals court. There is no basis in the law for this. He has a pen and a phone.

July 27, 2014

ATF is racist

They basically create a crime and then target minorities for the sting.

July 24, 2014

AR-15 Pistol Briefcase

Expect ATF to reconsider their SB-15 classification?

July 21, 2014

AR wear and tear

Double taps and hoping ATF doesn’t see it.

July 16, 2014

NFA regs are stupid

Yeah, pretty much:


July 14, 2014

Then why do they exist?


General Accounting Office report has found that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives lacks the resources to effectively investigate one of their highest stated priorities–firearms in the hands of those prohibited by federal law from having them.

June 26, 2014

Embellishment at ATF

They have a knack for stretching the truth.

June 25, 2014

Sig v. ATF lawsuit on hold

Seems the ATF is going to actually check sound suppressors to make sure they suppress sound. Novel idea.

June 19, 2014

ATF blames gun trafficking in Chicago on threepers

Oh, really? I doubt it.

June 07, 2014

Judge to ATF: Stop making it up as you go along

Arbitrary and capricious: An interesting opinion in which a judge tells the ATF that for something to be a suppressor, it has to actually suppress sound:

A mouse is not an “elephant” solely because it has three characteristics that are common to known elephants: a tail, gray skin, and four legs. A child’s bike is not a “motorcycle” solely because it has three characteristics common to known motorcycles: two rubber tires, handlebars, and a leather seat. And a Bud Light is not “Single-Malt Scotch,” just because it is frequently served in a glass container, contains alcohol, and is available for purchase at a tavern.

And, as the judge noted, one would think that to determine if something is a silencer, ATF probably should measure the sound.

June 03, 2014

DOJ appealing decisions against ATF

Seems a couple of judges didn’t care for ATF creating criminals and struck them down for it. Well, they are appealing.

May 30, 2014

Judge says ATF creates crime

Glenn has a report of more questionable ATF performance, in which they create crimes to blame people for. Kind of like how the FBI always creates terrorists to catch.

Imagine how differently people would think of ATF today if they created a crime for Randy Weaver to commit.

May 21, 2014

Compliance = Defiance?

I had a conversation recently in the real world with a gun nut friend in which I basically said that gun rights folks were sort of like prisoners. If you’ve ever worked in a prison, you know that the prisoners have nothing to do all day long except plot how to circumvent the rules. And, if you work there, you have a job to do while they figure out ways to squeak out an extra privilege or whatever. And that’s what most did. Why not? Nothing else to do! The folks watching you have jobs to do.

Gun rights folks, while similar in circumstance, are different in motivation. They want to figure out the rules and exactly how they comply with them because they can. Or they want to prove how stupid gun laws are. Or because fuck you.

And gun rights folks also have the occasional person, who’s rather like the prisoner who thinks life is better if you accept your fate and suck up to the guards, that wags their finger when a firearms law hack presents itself.

I was rather surprised that a gun blogger, commenting on the SB-15 and tax avoidance, opined that: But to those people I overheard saying, “Yay! Now I can have a short barreled rifle without the paperwork!…” I say, “Shame on you!” This part of the post was as surprising to me as the hideous grammar and spelling.

Shame on me? What on earth for? Those that snatch up a SB-15 for giggles (like me) are complying with the law. And, as the owner of a tax stamp collection, I can tell you it’s a pain in the ass to get your SBR on. I don’t mind paying the tax. I mind the ridiculous bureaucracy-imposed 18 month plus waiting period that has grown substantially worse under the current administration. And I mind the national gun registry that is the NFRTR. And I mind an administration that doesn’t like gun owners very much. Or, I could hop on the internet and have a SB-15 shipped to my house overnight.

For a gun that’s just going to be a plaything anyway, it’s easy math.

So, yeah, from this inmate, I’m cool with anyone dropping their SB-15 on a sub 16 inch gun. Hell, I’m going to build four of them before ATF changes it’s mind or whatever it calls that arbitrary rules making apparatus it uses. And you should too.

May 18, 2014

In fast and furious news

Judge is leaning toward White House privilege claim in ‘Fast and Furious’. Yes, she’s leaning toward keeping secret documents that may explain exactly what the hell they were thinking.

May 15, 2014

Did ATF just make new machine guns legal for trusts?

Looks like it. but I wouldn’t bet on it flying. At all.

May 14, 2014

Man brandishing a gun but it’s OK, he’s with ATF

Police shut down a Minneapolis freeway due to a high risk stop because a man was waving a gun around and, generally, endangering other people. Seems he brandished a gun at another driver. He was released because he’s one of the king’s men.

May 12, 2014

In fast and furious news

The justice department is still withholding documents.

May 01, 2014

I forgot about that

Mentioned it before, but the ATF glory hole story is making a come back.

April 15, 2014

There and back again

ATF Gun Running: Fast and furious guns found in El Paso and Columbus.

April 13, 2014

Given ATF’s propensity to change law on a whim

It’s a good question on the SB15 pistol brace

April 10, 2014

Sig: Our muzzle brake is not a silencer

SIG Sauer sues ATF for calling its ‘muzzle brake’ a gun silencer. It’s the same agency that says pieces of plastic are guns.

April 09, 2014

ATF: Chunk of unusable plastic is a firearm

Well, unless I’m missing something.

April 08, 2014

ATF bans 7N6 5.45X39 ammo

They’ve reviewed it and noted it has a steal core. And since this company makes a pistol that shoots the ammo, the cannot be imported. So, if someone were to make a 7.62x54R pistol, I guess that ammo would be illegal. Even if the pistol wasn’t popular.

Remember, I do this to entertain me, not you.

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