Comments on: Shall Issue v. Discretionary & No Issue http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/05/10/shall-issue-v-discretionary-no-issue/ Remember, I do this to entertain me... not you. Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:24:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Murdoc http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/05/10/shall-issue-v-discretionary-no-issue/#comment-200078 Murdoc Mon, 12 May 2008 04:04:57 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=15649#comment-200078 The chart I copied definitely used a bad method to get its numbers. I created and posted a more accurate (and less spectacular) one at <a href="http://www.gunpundit.com/542.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.gunpundit.com/542.php</a>. As we know, the right to carry states have a lower rate of violent crime, but not by nearly so much as that chart said. Thanks. The chart I copied definitely used a bad method to get its numbers. I created and posted a more accurate (and less spectacular) one at http://www.gunpundit.com/542.php. As we know, the right to carry states have a lower rate of violent crime, but not by nearly so much as that chart said.

Thanks.

]]> By: Sebastian-PGP http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/05/10/shall-issue-v-discretionary-no-issue/#comment-200068 Sebastian-PGP Sun, 11 May 2008 15:19:35 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=15649#comment-200068 <a href="http://progunprogressive.com/?p=922" rel="nofollow">As Phil points out over at my place</a>, Gun Pundit's work is somewhat flawed... As Phil points out over at my place, Gun Pundit’s work is somewhat flawed…

]]> By: Murdoc http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/05/10/shall-issue-v-discretionary-no-issue/#comment-200066 Murdoc Sat, 10 May 2008 23:23:45 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=15649#comment-200066 Absolutely correct. But a lot of antis won't sit still for that sort of analysis when spouting their "the streets will run red with blood." This is can serve as a quick starting point with the more rational among them because it quickly and easily demonstrates that much of the rhetoric deserves a closer look. It runs so counter to their core beliefs and can be useful. When they go "yeah, but how about a 'before vs. after' comparison," then you whip those numbers out. Go for the basic, simple, overarching points first and build from there. Absolutely correct. But a lot of antis won’t sit still for that sort of analysis when spouting their “the streets will run red with blood.” This is can serve as a quick starting point with the more rational among them because it quickly and easily demonstrates that much of the rhetoric deserves a closer look. It runs so counter to their core beliefs and can be useful.

When they go “yeah, but how about a ‘before vs. after’ comparison,” then you whip those numbers out.

Go for the basic, simple, overarching points first and build from there.

]]> By: Xrlq http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/05/10/shall-issue-v-discretionary-no-issue/#comment-200065 Xrlq Sat, 10 May 2008 19:27:23 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=15649#comment-200065 Cute, but as meaningless as all those other state vs. state or country vs. country comparisons. Better to compare each state before and after it went shall-issue. Cute, but as meaningless as all those other state vs. state or country vs. country comparisons. Better to compare each state before and after it went shall-issue.

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