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	<title>Comments on: ABC News lies about guns - again</title>
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		<title>By: HardCorps</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/04/23/abc-news-lies-about-guns-again/#comment-199286</link>
		<dc:creator>HardCorps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That unpossible he started using that word before you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That unpossible he started using that word before you.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/04/23/abc-news-lies-about-guns-again/#comment-199285</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sulaco,
     Last time I checked it was a 13 round magazine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sulaco,<br />
     Last time I checked it was a 13 round magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/04/23/abc-news-lies-about-guns-again/#comment-199262</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw that report and almost puked I was so disgusted.  If "assault rifles" that are being smuggled from the United states are causing the violence in Mexico then why isn't there equal amount of violence here in the United States?  Maybe the police officers in the United States are not as corrupt as their Mexican counterparts.  It was the most illogical piece of reporting I have ever seen.  I have faith that most of my fellow Americans say through their biased reporting and called them on their shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that report and almost puked I was so disgusted.  If &#8220;assault rifles&#8221; that are being smuggled from the United states are causing the violence in Mexico then why isn&#8217;t there equal amount of violence here in the United States?  Maybe the police officers in the United States are not as corrupt as their Mexican counterparts.  It was the most illogical piece of reporting I have ever seen.  I have faith that most of my fellow Americans say through their biased reporting and called them on their shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Sulaco</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/04/23/abc-news-lies-about-guns-again/#comment-199244</link>
		<dc:creator>Sulaco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are NOT High Capacity magazines!!! They are STANDARD capacity magazines designed for the weapon at the time or issue, like the Browning Hi-Power issued by the maker in 1927 with a 14 round mag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are NOT High Capacity magazines!!! They are STANDARD capacity magazines designed for the weapon at the time or issue, like the Browning Hi-Power issued by the maker in 1927 with a 14 round mag.</p>
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		<title>By: BobG</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/04/23/abc-news-lies-about-guns-again/#comment-199230</link>
		<dc:creator>BobG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I like how this story pops up every two or three months, must not be anything else for them to lie about."

Well, you can only stack bullshit so high, then you have to move on and start another pile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I like how this story pops up every two or three months, must not be anything else for them to lie about.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, you can only stack bullshit so high, then you have to move on and start another pile.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahab</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/04/23/abc-news-lies-about-guns-again/#comment-199227</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how this story pops up every two or three months, must not be anything else for them to lie about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how this story pops up every two or three months, must not be anything else for them to lie about.</p>
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		<title>By: JKB</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/04/23/abc-news-lies-about-guns-again/#comment-199226</link>
		<dc:creator>JKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Open borders has nothing to do with it.  If firearms from the US are making it into Mexico, then it is an export control issue.  But strangely, there have been no actions by the export control agencies, i.e., Bureau of Industry and Security and the Directorate of Defense Trade Controls.  Only the ATF spouting off in press releases.  

BIS and DDTC regularly take administrative, civil and criminal actions against exporter for things most people would not realize were controlled:

Exports of Gun Sights to Various Locations – In February 2005, BIS assessed a $510,000 
administrative penalty against Bass Pro., Inc. as part of an agreement to settle charges related to 
the unlicensed export of gun sights to a range of destinations.  Gun sights are controlled for 
human rights and anti-terrorism reasons.

And all firearms and ammunition are controlled by the International Traffic in Arms Regulations, with the few items that aren't defined as firearms controlled by the Export Administration Regulations.

It is simple, the export compliance agents find a weapon that originated or was previously in the US in Mexico.  They trace the weapon back to the dealer assuming the exporter can't be located by back tracing.  They inquire as to whom the weapon was sold.  They track the illegal exporter and hit him with fines and possible criminal charges.  And, if it is discovered that the dealer knew or should have known the weapon was to be exported illegally, then he gets a big fine as well.  

What is wrong with the above scenario?  The ATF doesn't have to be involved although it is assumed they would be to pursue any FFL violations.  It would take an afternoon to discover who sold the weapons found in Mexico and it take doesn't a concerted effort to smear all the FFL dealers to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open borders has nothing to do with it.  If firearms from the US are making it into Mexico, then it is an export control issue.  But strangely, there have been no actions by the export control agencies, i.e., Bureau of Industry and Security and the Directorate of Defense Trade Controls.  Only the ATF spouting off in press releases.  </p>
<p>BIS and DDTC regularly take administrative, civil and criminal actions against exporter for things most people would not realize were controlled:</p>
<p>Exports of Gun Sights to Various Locations – In February 2005, BIS assessed a $510,000<br />
administrative penalty against Bass Pro., Inc. as part of an agreement to settle charges related to<br />
the unlicensed export of gun sights to a range of destinations.  Gun sights are controlled for<br />
human rights and anti-terrorism reasons.</p>
<p>And all firearms and ammunition are controlled by the International Traffic in Arms Regulations, with the few items that aren&#8217;t defined as firearms controlled by the Export Administration Regulations.</p>
<p>It is simple, the export compliance agents find a weapon that originated or was previously in the US in Mexico.  They trace the weapon back to the dealer assuming the exporter can&#8217;t be located by back tracing.  They inquire as to whom the weapon was sold.  They track the illegal exporter and hit him with fines and possible criminal charges.  And, if it is discovered that the dealer knew or should have known the weapon was to be exported illegally, then he gets a big fine as well.  </p>
<p>What is wrong with the above scenario?  The ATF doesn&#8217;t have to be involved although it is assumed they would be to pursue any FFL violations.  It would take an afternoon to discover who sold the weapons found in Mexico and it take doesn&#8217;t a concerted effort to smear all the FFL dealers to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron W</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/04/23/abc-news-lies-about-guns-again/#comment-199218</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current Administration, as does ALL THREE of the major party presidential aspirants, favor open borders, So the solution will probably be to further crack down on the 2nd Amendment rights of U.S. to stop "illegal" guns from going to Mexico while they keep the borders open AND appease and accommodate illegal imigration at our expense!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current Administration, as does ALL THREE of the major party presidential aspirants, favor open borders, So the solution will probably be to further crack down on the 2nd Amendment rights of U.S. to stop &#8220;illegal&#8221; guns from going to Mexico while they keep the borders open AND appease and accommodate illegal imigration at our expense!</p>
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		<title>By: JKB</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/04/23/abc-news-lies-about-guns-again/#comment-199212</link>
		<dc:creator>JKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems these reports always forget to mention that there are documented cases of Mexican Army units actively supporting the cartels.  Even making incursions into the US.  I wonder where you might get automatic weapons if you own parts of a national military?

http://www.videosift.com/video/Mexican-Army-Crossing-Border-Again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems these reports always forget to mention that there are documented cases of Mexican Army units actively supporting the cartels.  Even making incursions into the US.  I wonder where you might get automatic weapons if you own parts of a national military?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.videosift.com/video/Mexican-Army-Crossing-Border-Again" rel="nofollow">http://www.videosift.com/video/Mexican-Army-Crossing-Border-Again</a></p>
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		<title>By: CTone</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/04/23/abc-news-lies-about-guns-again/#comment-199210</link>
		<dc:creator>CTone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I skipped the comments and sent them an email.  I doubt I'll get a response with me being less than tactful and all.

Time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I skipped the comments and sent them an email.  I doubt I&#8217;ll get a response with me being less than tactful and all.</p>
<p>Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/04/23/abc-news-lies-about-guns-again/#comment-199199</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind the fact that Mexico is about as lawless as the tribal regions of Pakistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind the fact that Mexico is about as lawless as the tribal regions of Pakistan.</p>
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