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		<title>By: Sulaco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sulaco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found Googles effort funny. They made their search screen backgound black color....umm which takes about 30 more milla amps per screen to do as opposed to standard white background. PC Hell in Seattle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found Googles effort funny. They made their search screen backgound black color&#8230;.umm which takes about 30 more milla amps per screen to do as opposed to standard white background. PC Hell in Seattle.</p>
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		<title>By: Gunstar1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gunstar1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the &lt;em&gt;statement&lt;/em&gt; that was made...

Lets show our love of the planet and turn the lights out at one of the lowest energy usage times of the day.

I am sure it would have been an even greater success if they had planned it for 2am.

I think the greatest question is what impact did this little event have on energy production.  From what I remember of power generation, the plants go to minimal production in the evening because there is far less strain on the system after the sun goes down.  

I wonder what effect it actually had on the station and whether they were able to lower output or if they were already at the lowest setting when it happened.

A power plant cannot be turned "off".  It has run at a certain output level constantly, and if more is needed then other generators are spun up. 

Kind of like your lawnmower without a starter.  If you want power from it, it must running.  If you shut it off, it will take some work to get it going again.  If your lawnmower is running at idle becuase it does not need to work to cut the grass, turning the headlights on or off is not going to make any difference.  The mower is running and producing pollution regardless of whether the headlights are on or off, so the pollution output could be exactly the same.

It is probably a regional result, whether a plant took a generator to idle because of this or not.  Or if the generator that went to idle at 8-9pm was turned back on to capacity from 9-10 when it was normally set to idle (which would make the lights out pointless).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the <em>statement</em> that was made&#8230;</p>
<p>Lets show our love of the planet and turn the lights out at one of the lowest energy usage times of the day.</p>
<p>I am sure it would have been an even greater success if they had planned it for 2am.</p>
<p>I think the greatest question is what impact did this little event have on energy production.  From what I remember of power generation, the plants go to minimal production in the evening because there is far less strain on the system after the sun goes down.  </p>
<p>I wonder what effect it actually had on the station and whether they were able to lower output or if they were already at the lowest setting when it happened.</p>
<p>A power plant cannot be turned &#8220;off&#8221;.  It has run at a certain output level constantly, and if more is needed then other generators are spun up. </p>
<p>Kind of like your lawnmower without a starter.  If you want power from it, it must running.  If you shut it off, it will take some work to get it going again.  If your lawnmower is running at idle becuase it does not need to work to cut the grass, turning the headlights on or off is not going to make any difference.  The mower is running and producing pollution regardless of whether the headlights are on or off, so the pollution output could be exactly the same.</p>
<p>It is probably a regional result, whether a plant took a generator to idle because of this or not.  Or if the generator that went to idle at 8-9pm was turned back on to capacity from 9-10 when it was normally set to idle (which would make the lights out pointless).</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;"Next year, I’m renting Klieg lights, I swear."&lt;/em&gt;

Probably not.  You'd probably have to go to a film house to find them, and you are not interested in those prices.  Believe me.

PAR-64's.  Still: the biggest bang for your buck in the market.

Watching all this "Klieg light" jazz in the 'sphere lately makes me think about half-seriously that I might have a market in Earth Hour designs next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Next year, I’m renting Klieg lights, I swear.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Probably not.  You&#8217;d probably have to go to a film house to find them, and you are not interested in those prices.  Believe me.</p>
<p>PAR-64&#8217;s.  Still: the biggest bang for your buck in the market.</p>
<p>Watching all this &#8220;Klieg light&#8221; jazz in the &#8217;sphere lately makes me think about half-seriously that I might have a market in Earth Hour designs next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Metulj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metulj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Vote for David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vote for David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL @ Cuba comment.  Note also, how environmentally sensitive northern South America and Africa must be . . .

I forgot.  I was going to do something, honest.  It would have involved electric heaters and about 4 houses worth of lights turned on in my place simultaneously.

Hey you know if we all get together and boycott X gas company prices will go down!!!

Did anybody in this asinine scheme ever think to ask the power company how long it would take to get back online after the voltage spike from removing so much of the load all at once?  Ah, who cares they're all a bunch of greedy capitalists and it *probably* would have been fine, anyhow . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL @ Cuba comment.  Note also, how environmentally sensitive northern South America and Africa must be . . .</p>
<p>I forgot.  I was going to do something, honest.  It would have involved electric heaters and about 4 houses worth of lights turned on in my place simultaneously.</p>
<p>Hey you know if we all get together and boycott X gas company prices will go down!!!</p>
<p>Did anybody in this asinine scheme ever think to ask the power company how long it would take to get back online after the voltage spike from removing so much of the load all at once?  Ah, who cares they&#8217;re all a bunch of greedy capitalists and it *probably* would have been fine, anyhow . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Ritchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, it looks like teh Cuba did quite well.</description>
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		<title>By: PaulB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Course I need spell checker.</description>
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		<title>By: PaulB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bought a bike in Indians.  22 hours, 1134 miles, 72 gallons of gas, arerage MPG of 16 and PPG of 3.15.  I saw oild well in Indiana along I64.  Who knew.  Doesn't seem to the price there as I found the highest prices around Indainaplis.  Didn't a have the lights on but I did my part to wastes energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bought a bike in Indians.  22 hours, 1134 miles, 72 gallons of gas, arerage MPG of 16 and PPG of 3.15.  I saw oild well in Indiana along I64.  Who knew.  Doesn&#8217;t seem to the price there as I found the highest prices around Indainaplis.  Didn&#8217;t a have the lights on but I did my part to wastes energy.</p>
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		<title>By: # 9</title>
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		<dc:creator># 9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compare the propaganda from the &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_c5K7Jdw9E&#38;eurl=http://www4.earthhourus.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;WWF and Earth Hour US&lt;/a&gt; with what really happened.

&lt;a href="http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll209/Publius9/lightsfinal.jpg" rel="nofollow"&gt;The entire US 11:18 PM Eastern&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll209/Publius9/lights.jpg" rel="nofollow"&gt;East Coast US 8:44 PM Eastern Time&lt;/a&gt;

The YouTube video is faked. Thanks Jeremy Piven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compare the propaganda from the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_c5K7Jdw9E&amp;eurl=http://www4.earthhourus.org/" rel="nofollow">WWF and Earth Hour US</a> with what really happened.</p>
<p><a href="http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll209/Publius9/lightsfinal.jpg" rel="nofollow">The entire US 11:18 PM Eastern</a></p>
<p><a href="http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll209/Publius9/lights.jpg" rel="nofollow">East Coast US 8:44 PM Eastern Time</a></p>
<p>The YouTube video is faked. Thanks Jeremy Piven.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pff, I saw one family on the news, they turned off their lights, and lit their house with candles ... (/facepalm)

High-efficiency lighting and nuclear power will do more to reduce greenhouse gasses than idiots like that ever will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pff, I saw one family on the news, they turned off their lights, and lit their house with candles &#8230; (/facepalm)</p>
<p>High-efficiency lighting and nuclear power will do more to reduce greenhouse gasses than idiots like that ever will.</p>
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 04:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turned on every light in and around the house at 8pm.  By this time next year, I'm hoping to have at least one 20+ candlepower flashlight (if not more) to have fun with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turned on every light in and around the house at 8pm.  By this time next year, I&#8217;m hoping to have at least one 20+ candlepower flashlight (if not more) to have fun with.</p>
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		<title>By: Moriarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 04:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Went out to dinner and forgot to turn off the porch lights (for the wraparound porch) and the garage lights.  (Left the living room lights on as usual.)

When we drove home the house was lit up like a damned Christmas tree in the middle of our field.  That usually annoys me, since I prefer the place to be less conspicuous after dark.

Then I got home and remembered all this "Earth Hour" nonsense.

I feel better now.

Next year, I'm renting Klieg lights, I swear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Went out to dinner and forgot to turn off the porch lights (for the wraparound porch) and the garage lights.  (Left the living room lights on as usual.)</p>
<p>When we drove home the house was lit up like a damned Christmas tree in the middle of our field.  That usually annoys me, since I prefer the place to be less conspicuous after dark.</p>
<p>Then I got home and remembered all this &#8220;Earth Hour&#8221; nonsense.</p>
<p>I feel better now.</p>
<p>Next year, I&#8217;m renting Klieg lights, I swear.</p>
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