Comments on: PD Ditches Glock http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/ Remember, I do this to entertain me... not you. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:50:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: anonymous http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-197044 anonymous Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:54:41 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-197044 I'm in a suburb of Portland, Oregon. The Portland Police department had a couple of kbs with Model 21 Glocks, a.k.a .45 acp. I don't seem them carrying 21s anymore. They're all 19s. The only .45s I see are 1911s that Clackamas county sheriffs deputies carry. Clackamas lets their officers qualify with whatever they want. Most departments around here only let their officers carry what they're issued. Dean Speir has more <a href="http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/ppb.html" rel="nofollow">details</a> I’m in a suburb of Portland, Oregon. The Portland Police department had a couple of kbs with Model 21 Glocks, a.k.a .45 acp. I don’t seem them carrying 21s anymore. They’re all 19s. The only .45s I see are 1911s that Clackamas county sheriffs deputies carry. Clackamas lets their officers qualify with whatever they want. Most departments around here only let their officers carry what they’re issued.

Dean Speir has more details

]]> By: Gunslinger http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196928 Gunslinger Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:34:35 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196928 I own a Glock 23 (40 cal.) I changed out the barrel to a Storm Lake, fully supported and normal rifling. I make my own ammo too. I have shot 1800 lead bullets and 500 copper jacketed , through it over the past 2 years ,,, not a problem. <strong>I wouldn't even think of doing this with the stock barrel.</strong> Also I check EACH round as to how it is seated / headspaced in the barrel. This takes care of many problems in advance. I own a Glock 23 (40 cal.) I changed out the barrel to a Storm Lake, fully supported and normal rifling. I make my own ammo too. I have shot 1800 lead bullets and 500 copper jacketed , through it over the past 2 years ,,, not a problem. I wouldn’t even think of doing this with the stock barrel. Also I check EACH round as to how it is seated / headspaced in the barrel. This takes care of many problems in advance.

]]> By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196897 SayUncle Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:20:20 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196897 Try <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=1911+kaboom&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2006-23,GGGL:en" rel="nofollow">google</a>. Try google.

]]> By: Cactus Jack http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196896 Cactus Jack Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:18:25 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196896 Have there been any problems like those mentioned with the M1911a1 or Springfield XDs? I've never heard of any myself. Have there been any problems like those mentioned with the M1911a1 or Springfield XDs? I’ve never heard of any myself.

]]> By: GeorgeH http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196888 GeorgeH Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:40:14 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196888 I carry a Para Ordnance Carry Gap which is built on their shortened 1911 based frame with a ramped barrel with real lands and grooves. The kaboom issue has a lot more to do with Tupperware than the cartridge. I carry a Para Ordnance Carry Gap which is built on their shortened 1911 based frame with a ramped barrel with real lands and grooves. The kaboom issue has a lot more to do with Tupperware than the cartridge.

]]> By: drstrangegun http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196887 drstrangegun Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:37:25 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196887 I'd like to know what brand of ammo this was. IIRC isn't the webbing on the .45GAP cartridge thicker than .45acp, and if so, were a company to load using cheaper shortened .45acp cartridges would that not greatly increase the risk of case failure? On the other hand, there are quite a few Springfield XD45GAP pistols out there, and I haven't heard of one of those KB'ing. I’d like to know what brand of ammo this was. IIRC isn’t the webbing on the .45GAP cartridge thicker than .45acp, and if so, were a company to load using cheaper shortened .45acp cartridges would that not greatly increase the risk of case failure?

On the other hand, there are quite a few Springfield XD45GAP pistols out there, and I haven’t heard of one of those KB’ing.

]]> By: Robb Allen http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196882 Robb Allen Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:37:28 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196882 I just carry the 10mm Glock as the Good Lord intended me to. I suspect case rupture too and if they were shooting unjacketed ammo, then that's half the problem right there. I just carry the 10mm Glock as the Good Lord intended me to.

I suspect case rupture too and if they were shooting unjacketed ammo, then that’s half the problem right there.

]]> By: HardCorps http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196878 HardCorps Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:00:43 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196878 Pressure issues? The hottest thing is to pack as much powder behind the lead as possible to increase velocity on a smaller package. I carry a 1911 and I don't have to worry about this issue. Pressure issues? The hottest thing is to pack as much powder behind the lead as possible to increase velocity on a smaller package. I carry a 1911 and I don’t have to worry about this issue.

]]> By: MostlyGenius http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196873 MostlyGenius Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:12:57 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196873 I have been carrying a Glock for more than 10 years. They are great guns and it would take some convincing that I need it chambered in anything other than 9mm. I have been carrying a Glock for more than 10 years. They are great guns and it would take some convincing that I need it chambered in anything other than 9mm.

]]> By: Tam http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196872 Tam Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:06:42 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/14/pd_ditches_glock/#comment-196872 <blockquote>The 45GAP round was designed by Glock. I wonder if their pistols that fire this caliber are based on an existing frame or if they made a new pistol from the ground up?</blockquote> The .45GAP Glocks are on the same frame as the 9mm/.40/.357SIG Glocks, albeit with a wider slide. <blockquote>Personally, I stick to Glocks in 9mm and 45ACP because I know they were designed from the ground up to shoot those calibers.</blockquote> Actually, the .45ACP Glocks are built on a frame that was designed for 10mm. The G20 was hoped to cash in on the LE 10mm trend that never materialized when the FBI briefly issued the caliber. The .45GAP is susceptible to setback issues when using 200gr+ bullets due to case capacity.

The 45GAP round was designed by Glock. I wonder if their pistols that fire this caliber are based on an existing frame or if they made a new pistol from the ground up?

The .45GAP Glocks are on the same frame as the 9mm/.40/.357SIG Glocks, albeit with a wider slide.

Personally, I stick to Glocks in 9mm and 45ACP because I know they were designed from the ground up to shoot those calibers.

Actually, the .45ACP Glocks are built on a frame that was designed for 10mm. The G20 was hoped to cash in on the LE 10mm trend that never materialized when the FBI briefly issued the caliber.

The .45GAP is susceptible to setback issues when using 200gr+ bullets due to case capacity.

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