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		<title>By: Ravenwood</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/10/25/755000/#comment-185061</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravenwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would think there are more Mohammed's on the list than John's...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would think there are more Mohammed&#8217;s on the list than John&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rabbit</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/10/25/755000/#comment-184991</link>
		<dc:creator>Rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I still go to the counter and present my credentials, such as they are (I'm not a LEO and don't purport to be one.) I announce I'm checking a firearm, smile, and wait for a reaction. Usually, Southwest smiles right back and doesn't get freaked, although there was one time in San Antonio where my Pelican case (safety yellow) caused some PSH from a counter drone who thought it should be 'in a bag'. She was quickly overruled by her supervisor, who 'got it'.

I also carry a printout of TSA's rules and the airline's rules and have them available to show full 'compliance' on my part and to ensure compliance on their part. 

Regards,
Rabbit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I still go to the counter and present my credentials, such as they are (I&#8217;m not a LEO and don&#8217;t purport to be one.) I announce I&#8217;m checking a firearm, smile, and wait for a reaction. Usually, Southwest smiles right back and doesn&#8217;t get freaked, although there was one time in San Antonio where my Pelican case (safety yellow) caused some PSH from a counter drone who thought it should be &#8216;in a bag&#8217;. She was quickly overruled by her supervisor, who &#8216;got it&#8217;.</p>
<p>I also carry a printout of TSA&#8217;s rules and the airline&#8217;s rules and have them available to show full &#8216;compliance&#8217; on my part and to ensure compliance on their part. </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Rabbit.</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/10/25/755000/#comment-184928</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;However, I’ve not had a problem with domestic air travel, and I always print my own documents and I’m usually checking a firearm.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My mistake. My source says that even with the ID card, you can’t check-in online or by using a kiosk, you still need to check in in person.

&lt;a href="http://standardmischief.com/blog/2006/10/26/spoof-yourself-a-boarding-pass/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Spoof yourself a boarding pass!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>However, I’ve not had a problem with domestic air travel, and I always print my own documents and I’m usually checking a firearm.</p></blockquote>
<p>My mistake. My source says that even with the ID card, you can’t check-in online or by using a kiosk, you still need to check in in person.</p>
<p><a href="http://standardmischief.com/blog/2006/10/26/spoof-yourself-a-boarding-pass/" rel="nofollow">Spoof yourself a boarding pass!</a></p>
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		<title>By: straightarrow</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/10/25/755000/#comment-184881</link>
		<dc:creator>straightarrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wait until the names from the 2640 list are added.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wait until the names from the 2640 list are added.</p>
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		<title>By: Cactus Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/10/25/755000/#comment-184853</link>
		<dc:creator>Cactus Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe most of those 755,000 people on the list are liberals who've been openly pro-Osama. IMHO, morally supporting terrorists and acually being one are one and the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe most of those 755,000 people on the list are liberals who&#8217;ve been openly pro-Osama. IMHO, morally supporting terrorists and acually being one are one and the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Rabbit</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/10/25/755000/#comment-184852</link>
		<dc:creator>Rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to have *some involvement* in this area in the past. Needless to say, I'm in the database vis-a-vis said involvement, purely from an *administrative* standpoint.  However, I've not had a problem with domestic air travel, and I always print my own documents and I'm usually checking a firearm. 

I've not travelled internationally since that time and I can't address any incidents I may have in doing so, but I doubt I'll have any. I do, however, think the whole list is combersome and unwieldy and in dire need of an overhaul as well as some level of end point oversight with a single point of accountability...as opposed to how it is now.

...and that's all I can say about that.

Regards,
Rabbit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to have *some involvement* in this area in the past. Needless to say, I&#8217;m in the database vis-a-vis said involvement, purely from an *administrative* standpoint.  However, I&#8217;ve not had a problem with domestic air travel, and I always print my own documents and I&#8217;m usually checking a firearm. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not travelled internationally since that time and I can&#8217;t address any incidents I may have in doing so, but I doubt I&#8217;ll have any. I do, however, think the whole list is combersome and unwieldy and in dire need of an overhaul as well as some level of end point oversight with a single point of accountability&#8230;as opposed to how it is now.</p>
<p>&#8230;and that&#8217;s all I can say about that.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Rabbit.</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/10/25/755000/#comment-184819</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;One of my coworkers has a 4 yr old grandson who is on the no-fly list just because of his name. They can’t get him off the list, but TSA lets him on the plane when they get a look at him. What happens when he grows up? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The kid can try various variations of his legal name. Sen. Ted "series of tubes" Stevens' wife, Catherine Stevens, ran in to this problem when she tried to fly under the name "Cat Stevens".

Yes, it's really that easy, and that stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>One of my coworkers has a 4 yr old grandson who is on the no-fly list just because of his name. They can’t get him off the list, but TSA lets him on the plane when they get a look at him. What happens when he grows up? </p></blockquote>
<p>The kid can try various variations of his legal name. Sen. Ted &#8220;series of tubes&#8221; Stevens&#8217; wife, Catherine Stevens, ran in to this problem when she tried to fly under the name &#8220;Cat Stevens&#8221;.</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s really that easy, and that stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/10/25/755000/#comment-184815</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree, there's actually 755,000 &lt;strong&gt;names&lt;/strong&gt; on the list, not people. that means that &lt;em&gt;multiple&lt;/em&gt; Robert  Johnsons, Ted Kennedys, James Moores, Walther Murphys, and a few people named John Lewis are all annoyed by this ineffective war on teh terror.

You can apply for a "I am not a terrorist" card, but that does not escape you from extra scrutiny, or allow you to print yourself a boarding pass on your own printer like normal people.

The best part about all this TSA mischief is that it's &lt;a href="http://standardmischief.com/blog/2006/11/01/fake-boarding-pass-circumventing-the-no-fly-list-explained/" rel="nofollow"&gt;pretty easy to circumvent.&lt;/a&gt;

Circumvention is a crime, so I'll only recommend this path for people planning to meet Allah next Tuesday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree, there&#8217;s actually 755,000 <strong>names</strong> on the list, not people. that means that <em>multiple</em> Robert  Johnsons, Ted Kennedys, James Moores, Walther Murphys, and a few people named John Lewis are all annoyed by this ineffective war on teh terror.</p>
<p>You can apply for a &#8220;I am not a terrorist&#8221; card, but that does not escape you from extra scrutiny, or allow you to print yourself a boarding pass on your own printer like normal people.</p>
<p>The best part about all this TSA mischief is that it&#8217;s <a href="http://standardmischief.com/blog/2006/11/01/fake-boarding-pass-circumventing-the-no-fly-list-explained/" rel="nofollow">pretty easy to circumvent.</a></p>
<p>Circumvention is a crime, so I&#8217;ll only recommend this path for people planning to meet Allah next Tuesday.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind, if the Hildebeest is elected, that number goes up by about 4 million when she declares the NRA a terrorist organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind, if the Hildebeest is elected, that number goes up by about 4 million when she declares the NRA a terrorist organization.</p>
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		<title>By: davetha</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/10/25/755000/#comment-184786</link>
		<dc:creator>davetha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's less than 1 in 400...

The Muslim population alone is over 5.2 million in the US, so if they are ALL Muslim, then that's 1 in 7 of them, meaning at least 6 out of 7 Muslims are not on the list at all.

Now, if only the 6 out of 7 took care of the 1 in 7, we wouldn't have a problem at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s less than 1 in 400&#8230;</p>
<p>The Muslim population alone is over 5.2 million in the US, so if they are ALL Muslim, then that&#8217;s 1 in 7 of them, meaning at least 6 out of 7 Muslims are not on the list at all.</p>
<p>Now, if only the 6 out of 7 took care of the 1 in 7, we wouldn&#8217;t have a problem at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/10/25/755000/#comment-184785</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my coworkers has a 4 yr old grandson who is on the no-fly list just because of his name. They can't get him off the list, but TSA lets him on the plane when they get a look at him. What happens when he grows up? Jack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my coworkers has a 4 yr old grandson who is on the no-fly list just because of his name. They can&#8217;t get him off the list, but TSA lets him on the plane when they get a look at him. What happens when he grows up? Jack.</p>
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