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By: SayUncle » Unstumped

SayUncle » Unstumped — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:53:38 +0000

[...] asked about this belt-fed revolver. Looks like I got an answer from SDC in comments: It�s a Josselyn chain pistol, in 22 rimfire. It was patented January 23, 1866, by Harry Josselyn, [...]

By: jesse

jesse — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:25:08 +0000

Crazy. Whatever it is, I want one.

By: Sebastian

Sebastian — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:04:16 +0000

Patented in Mass? But not legal there currently? What has the world come to.

By: SDC

SDC — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 03:01:13 +0000

It’s a Josselyn chain pistol, in 22 rimfire. It was patented January 23, 1866, by Harry Josselyn, in Roxbury, Mass. See “Firearms Curiosa”, by Lewis Winant.

By: Bruce

Bruce — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:12:08 +0000

Whatever it is, it’s not legal in Massachusetts.

By: Les Jones

Les Jones — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:05:44 +0000

Also, see that thing on the right side just behind where a trigger would be? Could be a place to attach a hand crank.

By: Les Jones

Les Jones — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:04:06 +0000

The thing sticking down where the rear sight would be on a modern gun is a puzzler. It might actually be a striker for a flint. If this is a non-percussion cap blackpowder gun it would be even more exotic (and impractical).

By: Kevin Baker

Kevin Baker — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:53:24 +0000

I know! I know what it is!

REALLY IMPRACTICAL!!

By: Lyle

Lyle — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:33:09 +0000

Where do you get a hip holster for one of those babies?

I suppose there’s a clip in the back of each chamber to keep the cartridges in.

Lets say each one of those chambers has a nipple in the back for a percussion cap, and is loaded with black powder. Lets further speculate that the gun could be scaled up with a long barrel, somewhat like the old Remington Carbine:
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_186_191&products_id=1000

and mounted on a tripod with T&E mount. We can also imagine a gas system, or a recoil operated system, for advancing the chain.

Does that make it a “machinegun” or does the fact that it uses no fixed ammunition make it just another black powder weapon? Does the Constitution say one way or the other, and if the Constitution isn’t the last word, what (or who) is?

What if it was ignited using a flint and frizzen, with each chamber having its own priming pan? What if it were an 8 gauge smooth-bore? What if it were just double action, with a hand crank?

(Note: In these the United States, there is no entry for the word “frizzen” in the MS Office dictionary. That seems somehow inappropriate to me.)

By: Cactus Jack

Cactus Jack — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:34:38 +0000

It needs a ammo bin, like the M2 has.

By: Steve Ramsey

Steve Ramsey — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:36:45 +0000

That’s the dumbest thing I ever saw.
I want one though.

By: #9

#9 — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:54:49 +0000

19th century assault revolver!

Pretty good Les. Let the pants wetting begin.

By: Les Jones

Les Jones — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:23:30 +0000

19th century assault revolver!

By: Ian Argent

Ian Argent — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:51:40 +0000

Oddly enough, I either have somewhere around here or just threw out in a fit of decluttering a Nerf gun with the same type of feed, a continuous loop of chambers. (I had lost all the darts for it). This link ( http://nerfcenter.com/reviews-of/RotoTrack.htm ) goes to what I believe it the model.

Nerf had added their own twist on it by making the belt expandable - you could snap apart the chain and add lengths.

By: Sebastian-PGP

Sebastian-PGP — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:07:26 +0000

I was going to go with chaingun.

By: Tam

Tam — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:47:03 +0000

It’s a “belt fed revolver”…

Actually, there’s a name for this type of gun, but I’m drawing a blank; it was an attempt to circumvent the inherent capacity restrictions of a conventional cylinder, much like some of the multi-row pinfire revolvers.