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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174145</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;that’s a good question, actually. now, me, i’m such a fossilized old net.fart that i only send plain-text emails, but even i’ve had to accept that that’s puritanical now. the main problem i see with links in email is, what if your web hoster goes down or chews your site just at the crucial moment that prospective employer wants to check it out? i think it’d be nice if the application email could be as self-sufficient as possible, for the convenience of whoever you’re applying to.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You have convinced me, Nomen. Future jobhunting emails will include both plain text links to the files on my server (to prove my google-fu) and attached copies of my resume in Word 95. Word 94/2K/XP, Rich Text Format, OASIS OpenOffice, PDF (both the current version and in  Acrobat 3 (i.e. PDF 1.2), because 3 makes for a much more compact file), HTML, Wordprefect, WordStar, and of course plain text. 

Thanks for the feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>that’s a good question, actually. now, me, i’m such a fossilized old net.fart that i only send plain-text emails, but even i’ve had to accept that that’s puritanical now. the main problem i see with links in email is, what if your web hoster goes down or chews your site just at the crucial moment that prospective employer wants to check it out? i think it’d be nice if the application email could be as self-sufficient as possible, for the convenience of whoever you’re applying to.</p></blockquote>
<p>You have convinced me, Nomen. Future jobhunting emails will include both plain text links to the files on my server (to prove my google-fu) and attached copies of my resume in Word 95. Word 94/2K/XP, Rich Text Format, OASIS OpenOffice, PDF (both the current version and in  Acrobat 3 (i.e. PDF 1.2), because 3 makes for a much more compact file), HTML, Wordprefect, WordStar, and of course plain text. </p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174094</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;if you reject me in favour of somebody with worse qualifications but a prettier resume then I don’t want to work for you&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I'm not saying that. I am saying that a résumé is what gets you in the door.  If you have 35 candidates for one job, those that stand out get in.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not sure I’d put “I’m good at wasting company time looking at fark and slashdot” on a resume, myself.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now that's funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>if you reject me in favour of somebody with worse qualifications but a prettier resume then I don’t want to work for you</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that. I am saying that a résumé is what gets you in the door.  If you have 35 candidates for one job, those that stand out get in.</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m not sure I’d put “I’m good at wasting company time looking at fark and slashdot” on a resume, myself.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now that&#8217;s funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Tomblin</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174093</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Tomblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My resume is in HTML.  Not only can I just point people to the URL, most mailers can handle it too.  Sure, it's not as pretty as some, but it's clear and readable, and if you reject me in favour of somebody with worse qualifications but a prettier resume then I don't want to work for you.  It also spans over 20 years of working and 10 different jobs, so you're damn right it's over a page long.

&lt;i&gt;I'm not sure how I’d word web-savviness either&lt;/i&gt;

I'm not sure I'd put "I'm good at wasting company time looking at fark and slashdot" on a resume, myself.  Maybe that goes in the cover letter?  If it's a requirement, I'd say I was a "netinja".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My resume is in HTML.  Not only can I just point people to the URL, most mailers can handle it too.  Sure, it&#8217;s not as pretty as some, but it&#8217;s clear and readable, and if you reject me in favour of somebody with worse qualifications but a prettier resume then I don&#8217;t want to work for you.  It also spans over 20 years of working and 10 different jobs, so you&#8217;re damn right it&#8217;s over a page long.</p>
<p><i>I&#8217;m not sure how I’d word web-savviness either</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d put &#8220;I&#8217;m good at wasting company time looking at fark and slashdot&#8221; on a resume, myself.  Maybe that goes in the cover letter?  If it&#8217;s a requirement, I&#8217;d say I was a &#8220;netinja&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lean Left &#187; Quote of the Day, 2007-06-20</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174085</link>
		<dc:creator>Lean Left &#187; Quote of the Day, 2007-06-20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] response to SayUncle&#8217;s rĂ©sumĂ© nit-pick fest, we find this: Screw you! How is that for an â€śActionâ€ť verb! This is the most trite resume [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] response to SayUncle&#8217;s rĂ©sumĂ© nit-pick fest, we find this: Screw you! How is that for an â€śActionâ€ť verb! This is the most trite resume [...]</p>
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		<title>By: UnSpecified Chatter &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My Pet Peeves About Resume Readers</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174071</link>
		<dc:creator>UnSpecified Chatter &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My Pet Peeves About Resume Readers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (SE Michigan), as recently as last winter, I would like to give the other side of the coin to Mr. Say Uncleâ€™s provocative yet useful list of Resume Pet Peeves. Just to let you all know that there are two sides to every [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (SE Michigan), as recently as last winter, I would like to give the other side of the coin to Mr. Say Uncleâ€™s provocative yet useful list of Resume Pet Peeves. Just to let you all know that there are two sides to every [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle &#187; résumés - 2</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174066</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle &#187; résumés - 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I should be clear what I meant about résumés. I find it is acceptable to have a multi-page résumé depending on the position you&#8217;re [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I should be clear what I meant about résumés. I find it is acceptable to have a multi-page résumé depending on the position you&#8217;re [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gallatin to China at Ninth Stage</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174039</link>
		<dc:creator>Gallatin to China at Ninth Stage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] *UPDATE: Uncle spanks. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174038</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never knew you were such a man of letters.

I thought that you were a number cruncher.

These are great tips, though.

The 12,000,000 illegal aliens aren't the only ones who need to start using our native language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never knew you were such a man of letters.</p>
<p>I thought that you were a number cruncher.</p>
<p>These are great tips, though.</p>
<p>The 12,000,000 illegal aliens aren&#8217;t the only ones who need to start using our native language.</p>
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		<title>By: gattsuru</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174036</link>
		<dc:creator>gattsuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I personally use OpenOffice, which has native support for writing into PDFs, but I hear recent versions of Word can do it as well, although you may need a Microsoft download.  GhostScript can deal with it as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I personally use OpenOffice, which has native support for writing into PDFs, but I hear recent versions of Word can do it as well, although you may need a Microsoft download.  GhostScript can deal with it as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomen Nescio</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174032</link>
		<dc:creator>Nomen Nescio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cheap PDF generator? OpenOffice.org will turn most anything into PDF for a few hundred megs of disk. oh, and it's a complete office suite, too.

or if you just want PDFs, there are "print-to-file" PDF-maker printer drivers out there. i use one called PrimoPDF. not really sure if it's the best one, though, or just a convenient one --- i run Windows only very seldom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cheap PDF generator? OpenOffice.org will turn most anything into PDF for a few hundred megs of disk. oh, and it&#8217;s a complete office suite, too.</p>
<p>or if you just want PDFs, there are &#8220;print-to-file&#8221; PDF-maker printer drivers out there. i use one called PrimoPDF. not really sure if it&#8217;s the best one, though, or just a convenient one &#8212; i run Windows only very seldom.</p>
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		<title>By: Heartless Libertarian</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174031</link>
		<dc:creator>Heartless Libertarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh...go ahead an google my name.  I have the same name as a former prime minister of a foreign country, so you have to go at least 10 pages deep to find one that's actually me.  Even then it's just race results from some races I've run in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh&#8230;go ahead an google my name.  I have the same name as a former prime minister of a foreign country, so you have to go at least 10 pages deep to find one that&#8217;s actually me.  Even then it&#8217;s just race results from some races I&#8217;ve run in.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174030</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just sent a résumé/resumé/resume out this morning. Comes in under 3 pages. I was requested to send a Word version but I have HTML versions on my site (one for IE and one for everyone else). Getting a PDF version would be a good idea - don't want to spend the money on Acrobat though just for that...any ideas on where else to get PDF generator?

Also, I include a link to my website right under my name, email, and address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just sent a résumé/resumé/resume out this morning. Comes in under 3 pages. I was requested to send a Word version but I have HTML versions on my site (one for IE and one for everyone else). Getting a PDF version would be a good idea - don&#8217;t want to spend the money on Acrobat though just for that&#8230;any ideas on where else to get PDF generator?</p>
<p>Also, I include a link to my website right under my name, email, and address.</p>
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		<title>By: tgirsch</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174026</link>
		<dc:creator>tgirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm actually back to stable enough employment that I could provide a good six years of work history and keep it down to one page, but it wasn't always like that.  I did contract work for much of 1999 and 2000, and probably had at least six different gigs in that span alone.  In the interests of brevity, I just lumped them all together on the résumé as a single "Independent Contractor" entry.

And I'm a big fan of saving typing whenever possible:  Alt-130 works gives you an é with one fewer keystroke than the Alt-0233 "vérsion."  :)  Also worth noting that you have to use the numbers on the number pad.  Using the numbers above the QWERTY won't work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually back to stable enough employment that I could provide a good six years of work history and keep it down to one page, but it wasn&#8217;t always like that.  I did contract work for much of 1999 and 2000, and probably had at least six different gigs in that span alone.  In the interests of brevity, I just lumped them all together on the résumé as a single &#8220;Independent Contractor&#8221; entry.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m a big fan of saving typing whenever possible:  Alt-130 works gives you an é with one fewer keystroke than the Alt-0233 &#8220;vérsion.&#8221;  <img src='http://www.saysuncle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Also worth noting that you have to use the numbers on the number pad.  Using the numbers above the QWERTY won&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174025</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most engineering jobs can be added to your list of professions requiring multiple pages.  In engineering, single page resumes are for new grads.  You gotta wonder why a thirty-something has only one page of education, job experience, and skills...maybe he has only one page of skills??!!

Regardless, the meat of the resume belongs on page 1.  Supporting information belongs on pages 2 and 3.
 
My dictionary includes r'esum'e and resume.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most engineering jobs can be added to your list of professions requiring multiple pages.  In engineering, single page resumes are for new grads.  You gotta wonder why a thirty-something has only one page of education, job experience, and skills&#8230;maybe he has only one page of skills??!!</p>
<p>Regardless, the meat of the resume belongs on page 1.  Supporting information belongs on pages 2 and 3.</p>
<p>My dictionary includes r&#8217;esum&#8217;e and resume.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174024</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would add... &lt;strong&gt;follow the damn instructions!&lt;/strong&gt; If a job listing says to mail a resume to "Search Committee," don't send it to "Human Resources Manager."  If it says to send writing samples, don't waste my time and yours sending a resume without writing samples.  You may otherwise be the perfect candidate for the job, but if you start out demonstrating an inability to follow simple instructions, your resume gets roundfiled without a second thought.

It shouldn't be necessary to even say this.  But here in the real world...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would add&#8230; <strong>follow the damn instructions!</strong> If a job listing says to mail a resume to &#8220;Search Committee,&#8221; don&#8217;t send it to &#8220;Human Resources Manager.&#8221;  If it says to send writing samples, don&#8217;t waste my time and yours sending a resume without writing samples.  You may otherwise be the perfect candidate for the job, but if you start out demonstrating an inability to follow simple instructions, your resume gets roundfiled without a second thought.</p>
<p>It shouldn&#8217;t be necessary to even say this.  But here in the real world&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gattsuru</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174023</link>
		<dc:creator>gattsuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loathe PDF simply because it's an expensive and inefficient format.  FoxIt reader has reduced the latter problem, but I still find it more effort than it's worth unless the company asks for PDF explicitly.

If they don't care, I try to go with something that matches the position.  Web design meets with HTML (since &lt;i&gt;every&lt;/i&gt; modern computer can deal with that without any further installation), for example.

But most of them ask for "Microsoft Word", and don't even specify the subtype.

I couldn't get my resume under one page since I was twenty-five.  Just writing the locations and contact info for places I've worked fills a page, nevermind trying to explain exactly what "Systems Administrator/Designer" for a rapid product development firm does (hint: a little bit of everything).

And googling my real name gives you nothing related to me... thank  for pen names.

Good luck dealing with the resume work, Saysuncle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loathe PDF simply because it&#8217;s an expensive and inefficient format.  FoxIt reader has reduced the latter problem, but I still find it more effort than it&#8217;s worth unless the company asks for PDF explicitly.</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t care, I try to go with something that matches the position.  Web design meets with HTML (since <i>every</i> modern computer can deal with that without any further installation), for example.</p>
<p>But most of them ask for &#8220;Microsoft Word&#8221;, and don&#8217;t even specify the subtype.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t get my resume under one page since I was twenty-five.  Just writing the locations and contact info for places I&#8217;ve worked fills a page, nevermind trying to explain exactly what &#8220;Systems Administrator/Designer&#8221; for a rapid product development firm does (hint: a little bit of everything).</p>
<p>And googling my real name gives you nothing related to me&#8230; thank  for pen names.</p>
<p>Good luck dealing with the resume work, Saysuncle.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomen Nescio</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174022</link>
		<dc:creator>Nomen Nescio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Let me clarify, in my original email I have the direct link to my PDF resume. That’s not good enough?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

that's a good question, actually. now, me, i'm such a fossilized old net.fart that i only send plain-text emails, but even i've had to accept that that's puritanical now. the main problem i see with links in email is, what if your web hoster goes down or chews your site just at the crucial moment that prospective employer wants to check it out? i think it'd be nice if the application email could be as self-sufficient as possible, for the convenience of whoever you're applying to.

but i could be weird about that. is there a consensus on the matter out there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Let me clarify, in my original email I have the direct link to my PDF resume. That’s not good enough?</p></blockquote>
<p>that&#8217;s a good question, actually. now, me, i&#8217;m such a fossilized old net.fart that i only send plain-text emails, but even i&#8217;ve had to accept that that&#8217;s puritanical now. the main problem i see with links in email is, what if your web hoster goes down or chews your site just at the crucial moment that prospective employer wants to check it out? i think it&#8217;d be nice if the application email could be as self-sufficient as possible, for the convenience of whoever you&#8217;re applying to.</p>
<p>but i could be weird about that. is there a consensus on the matter out there?</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174021</link>
		<dc:creator>Robb Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I use an email like this:

term-of-art@firstname-lastname.com&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sometimes, since I run my own email server, I'll put companyname@robballen.com so I can accurately kill it when a particular email starts getting spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I use an email like this:</p>
<p><a href="mailto:term-of-art@firstname-lastname.com">term-of-art@firstname-lastname.com</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Sometimes, since I run my own email server, I&#8217;ll put <a href="mailto:companyname@robballen.com">companyname@robballen.com</a> so I can accurately kill it when a particular email starts getting spam.</p>
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		<title>By: Xrlq</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174020</link>
		<dc:creator>Xrlq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always provide mine in PDF format unless specifically asked for Word or whatever.  I figure a PDF will always display and print the way I want it to, while it's all too easy for someone to inadvertently edit or repaginate a Word doc.  I would hope not too many employers would care, since failing to provide a résumé/resume only shows you're too cheap/poor to buy Adobe Acrobat, not that there's anything terribly wrong with you.  I always write "résumé," but wouldn't come down too hard on someone who writes "resume," only on the illiterate boobs who write résume, resumé or resúme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always provide mine in PDF format unless specifically asked for Word or whatever.  I figure a PDF will always display and print the way I want it to, while it&#8217;s all too easy for someone to inadvertently edit or repaginate a Word doc.  I would hope not too many employers would care, since failing to provide a résumé/resume only shows you&#8217;re too cheap/poor to buy Adobe Acrobat, not that there&#8217;s anything terribly wrong with you.  I always write &#8220;résumé,&#8221; but wouldn&#8217;t come down too hard on someone who writes &#8220;resume,&#8221; only on the illiterate boobs who write résume, resumé or resúme.</p>
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		<title>By: _Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174019</link>
		<dc:creator>_Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My car can print my resume.  It has a button for it right there on the steering wheel.  I have no idea how it knows....

Seriously, though, if you are looking for a computer person, check out Joel's excellent site:
http://jobs.joelonsoftware.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My car can print my resume.  It has a button for it right there on the steering wheel.  I have no idea how it knows&#8230;.</p>
<p>Seriously, though, if you are looking for a computer person, check out Joel&#8217;s excellent site:<br />
<a href="http://jobs.joelonsoftware.com/" rel="nofollow">http://jobs.joelonsoftware.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174017</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yeah, i noticed that before.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah, that's where I got it. If it's any better, when I control the presentation, I always use the French spelling. So that hardcopy I have with me when I walk in for the face-to-face interview always have those little thingys looking that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yeah, i noticed that before.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, that&#8217;s where I got it. If it&#8217;s any better, when I control the presentation, I always use the French spelling. So that hardcopy I have with me when I walk in for the face-to-face interview always have those little thingys looking that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174016</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;then you’re lucky i’m not in a position to hire you, for i’d drop the email unread. use your PDF version. PDF is a much better format than word-anything.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Thanks for your comment, I feel the same way. However 90% of the time when they ask for a preference, it's for it to be in MS Word format. The extra 10% is just asking for plain text pasted into the email message. When I say I have it as a PDF, but I could convert it, 50% of the time the PDF is OK.

Let me clarify, in my original email I have the direct link to my PDF resume. That's not good enough?

I use OpenOffice too, and I'm always afraid that when I save it down to MS Word format, something will get screwed-up, but that's what the people ask for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>then you’re lucky i’m not in a position to hire you, for i’d drop the email unread. use your PDF version. PDF is a much better format than word-anything.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks for your comment, I feel the same way. However 90% of the time when they ask for a preference, it&#8217;s for it to be in MS Word format. The extra 10% is just asking for plain text pasted into the email message. When I say I have it as a PDF, but I could convert it, 50% of the time the PDF is OK.</p>
<p>Let me clarify, in my original email I have the direct link to my PDF resume. That&#8217;s not good enough?</p>
<p>I use OpenOffice too, and I&#8217;m always afraid that when I save it down to MS Word format, something will get screwed-up, but that&#8217;s what the people ask for.</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174015</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I forgot to comment on this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;And, really, are you qualified for the job you’re applying for? Just asking.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

seriously, I've seen people ask for the fucking moon and the stars in an interview. &lt;a href="http://standardmischief.com/2006/11/07/frank-job-interview-conversation-that-did-not-happen-today/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Hell, I've even blogged about it.&lt;/a&gt; The interview person was impressed I googled the company before the interview, was quite impressed with my knowledge of Word and other MS programs, was quite impressed with my customer service experience, management experience, and then proceeded to tell me that I'd need none of those skills that they requested if I was hired.

Also, this whole post is quite a coincidence, as I just moments ago got a call to set up for a job interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I forgot to comment on this:</p>
<blockquote><p>And, really, are you qualified for the job you’re applying for? Just asking.</p></blockquote>
<p>seriously, I&#8217;ve seen people ask for the fucking moon and the stars in an interview. <a href="http://standardmischief.com/2006/11/07/frank-job-interview-conversation-that-did-not-happen-today/" rel="nofollow">Hell, I&#8217;ve even blogged about it.</a> The interview person was impressed I googled the company before the interview, was quite impressed with my knowledge of Word and other MS programs, was quite impressed with my customer service experience, management experience, and then proceeded to tell me that I&#8217;d need none of those skills that they requested if I was hired.</p>
<p>Also, this whole post is quite a coincidence, as I just moments ago got a call to set up for a job interview.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Soyer</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174013</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Soyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great.  Someone googles my name and comes up with the "gay gun nut." Good thing I'm not looking for a job. . .  And yes, "googles" is now officially a verb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great.  Someone googles my name and comes up with the &#8220;gay gun nut.&#8221; Good thing I&#8217;m not looking for a job. . .  And yes, &#8220;googles&#8221; is now officially a verb.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomen Nescio</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174012</link>
		<dc:creator>Nomen Nescio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I send my resume as a Word 95 attachment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

then you're lucky i'm not in a position to hire you, for i'd drop the email unread. use your PDF version. PDF is a &lt;i&gt;much&lt;/i&gt; better format than word-anything.

(PDF can be read by multiple different programs on pretty much any operating system out there. word can basically only be read by MS software, and by a few others who care enough to reverse engineer MS software, such as OpenOffice.org. added bonus: PDF was made to describe printed pages such that a correctly-made PDF should always print out the same, everywhere; word may achieve something similar, but that was never its main goal.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I send my resume as a Word 95 attachment.</p></blockquote>
<p>then you&#8217;re lucky i&#8217;m not in a position to hire you, for i&#8217;d drop the email unread. use your PDF version. PDF is a <i>much</i> better format than word-anything.</p>
<p>(PDF can be read by multiple different programs on pretty much any operating system out there. word can basically only be read by MS software, and by a few others who care enough to reverse engineer MS software, such as OpenOffice.org. added bonus: PDF was made to describe printed pages such that a correctly-made PDF should always print out the same, everywhere; word may achieve something similar, but that was never its main goal.)</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174011</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Writing a resume (I don't have an alt key) well is just a reflection of how well you write, period.  And, for that, the best help is &lt;a href="http://www.ablongman.com/professional/catalog/academic/product/1,4096,020530902X,00.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Strunk and White&lt;/a&gt;.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Writing a resume (I don&#8217;t have an alt key) well is just a reflection of how well you write, period.  And, for that, the best help is <a href="http://www.ablongman.com/professional/catalog/academic/product/1,4096,020530902X,00.html" rel="nofollow">Strunk and White</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174008</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, i noticed that &lt;a href="http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2006/03/06/rsum_or_resum_or_resume/" rel="nofollow"&gt;before&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, i noticed that <a href="http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2006/03/06/rsum_or_resum_or_resume/" rel="nofollow">before</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174007</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: résumés spelling

Note the text in the trackback from Nashville is Stalking. Now note the "search engine friendly URL" for this post in Wordpress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: résumés spelling</p>
<p>Note the text in the trackback from Nashville is Stalking. Now note the &#8220;search engine friendly URL&#8221; for this post in Wordpress.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174006</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. I'd probably hire someone just for using the term google-fu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. I&#8217;d probably hire someone just for using the term google-fu.</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174005</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/06/19/rsums/#comment-174005</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;but the phrase &lt;em&gt;Proficient in the Internet&lt;/em&gt; just doesn’t sound right.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Tube-meister?

google-fu?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>but the phrase <em>Proficient in the Internet</em> just doesn’t sound right.</p></blockquote>
<p>Tube-meister?</p>
<p>google-fu?</p>
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