Comments on: Tyler, Texas Shooting

By: SayUncle » Mass murderers v. armed citizens

SayUncle » Mass murderers v. armed citizens — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:15:41 +0000

[...] Tyler, Texas: Shooter on the loose. Mark Hears the noise and grabs a gun. He intervenes and saves the life of one man (who turns out to be the shooters’ son). He also drew fire from the murderer and likely saved more lives. Sadly, Mr. Wilson was murdered on the scene. [...]

By: LDF

LDF — Mon, 28 Feb 2005 05:46:56 +0000

Thanks for being one of us few people who are giving Mr. Wilson the recognition he deserves. This is the first that I heard of the attacker’s weapon not being an AK-47. Looks like I’ll need to update the posts on my blog. Nice work!

By: F�z

F�z — Sat, 26 Feb 2005 05:55:12 +0000

This is also why one must practice the Mozambique. After two solid hits to the COM, if you don’t see the orc go down, you must go for the head.

I wouldn’t train for head shots first, but surely head shots after COM shots have failed to end the conflict.

By: Robert Douglas

Robert Douglas — Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:32:00 +0000

I generally think in terms of high power and small bore due to a lot of exposure to the terminology. The division can be seen in High Powered Rifle Silhouette and Small Bore Rifle Silhouhette, Highpower International Rifle and Smallbore International Rifle, NRA Highpower Rifle (Service, Match & Sporting) and NRA Smallbore Rifle. It is common, and just one of many divisions in firearms classifications. I’m not necissarily saying anything about the writer’s intent, just that that caliber can be classified as high powered. I realize we are not specifically talking competition in this case, but when I read “high powered” I think of nothing more than a centerfire rifle. If I were writing, I could easily make the same mistake.

By: Jay G

Jay G — Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:54:39 +0000

Update: Commenter “Robert” at the Geekwitha45 website tells us that it was not a snubbie but a 9mm.

Doesn’t change my estimation one whit - it still takes a giant pair of brass ones to go up against a semi-auto, high capacity battle rifle with a pistol…

By: Publicola

Publicola — Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:09:10 +0000

Robert,
High Power in the competition sense is a specific type of event. It’s shot mainly with .223 or .308 projectiles but it doesn’t necessarily refer to the level of energy involved. It’s simply a name that got attached a long time ago - back when the ‘06 was a really fast .30 - & stuck.

A .22 is a smallbore weapon. the .30’s would be medium & the .35’s & up would be large. the small, medium & large are just relative descriptions of bore size though. if everything larger than .308 was outlawed then the meaning would shift a bit for each one.

But the reproter didn’t mean any of that - they meant a high powered weapon, which they mistakenly think the AK & derivitives are.

By: Robert Douglas

Robert Douglas — Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:50:06 +0000

Keep in mind that High Power Rifle is broad term often used for centerfire calibers from .22 on up, to differentiate from smallbore weapons. You often hear it when referring to rifle competition.

By: Jay G

Jay G — Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:36:54 +0000

Ditto what JR said.

I can think of very few instances of higher bravery than going up against a guy with a high capacity, semi-automatic rifle with a five-shot snubnose .38 revolver. Especially when it’s to save a complete stranger.

That’s balls, folks. Giant clanging brass ones.

Say hi to Adam for us, Mark…

By: JR

JR — Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:59:55 +0000

Incredibly sad event. At least the police saved us all some money and capped the BGs sorry ass.

A couple of lessons to take away:

1) Don’t bring a pistol to a rifle fight. You can’t go head-to-head, period.
2) A pickup truck makes for lousy cover. Most cars can be easily penetrated with a handgun round, save for the engine block itself.

I suspect Mr. Wilson knew these things, but waded into the fight nonetheless to save people’s lives. God bless him and his family.

By: cube

cube — Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:35:43 +0000

this is pretty close to the absoult worst case that i can think of being a CCW holder.

I hope wilson (the ccw holder who was killled) is recoginized and that their are videos which can be used as training aids to help CCW holders understand the importance of being able to shoot extremly well.

By: Jay G

Jay G — Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:05:13 +0000

I’ve got to echo the sentiments of my retired state cop dad.

You don’t practice with someone shooting back at you…