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National reciprocity

The NRA is pushing for it:

The head of the nations biggest gun rights group urged Congress Friday to pass legislation to allow gun owners to carry concealed weapons across state lines.

During the second day of the Conservative Political Action Conference, Executive Vice President and CEO of the National Rifle Association Wayne LaPierre said its time for Congress to act and pass the Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act.

11 Responses to “National reciprocity”

  1. skidmark Says:

    Oh, hell no! What Congress can give Congress can take back. I’m not taking my chances on that, especially if it over-rides existing reciprocity agreements and imposes a federal set of rules where/when you can or cannot carry.

    Instead of creating a new law that will do more harm than good, why does not the NRA work towards an interstate compact between the states? No state will be forced to join. Any state can drop out at any time.

    Or better yet, work on each individual state to move to universal reciprocity – if you have a permit (whether it came out of a Cracker Jack box or is from DC or Maryland or NJ or NYC & NYS) it’s good here. (Of course those places I just listed will continue to have no reciprocity. That will help folks know where to stay away from.

    stay safe.

  2. bob r Says:

    How about a “2nd Amendment Enforcement Act”. Put people in jail for enforcing _any_ supposed requirement to have a “permit” to own or carry a firearm. That would keep Federal prosecutors busy for a little while.

  3. KM Says:

    Have to agree with skidmark.
    Congress couldn’t find its ass with 2 hands and a hunting dog but the NRA wants to encourage them to pass a national CC law?
    WTF?!!?

  4. Matthew Carberry Says:

    You know, the proposed reciprocity law is actually out there to read as it has been introduced the past few years.

    Maybe read it before freaking out?

    It doesn’t “override existing reciprocity agreements” nor does it “dictate Federal terms on carry.”

    The two versions I’ve read from the last session, the Dem one introduced by Begich and the Republican counterpart, used an equal protection logic. If a state offers carry to its own citizens then it has to offer carry to other state’s citizens on the least restrictive terms it offers its own.

    So zero change to existing state laws, just says if you are not a prohibited person you can carry in NJ or Hawaii (for example) per the most liberal carry terms NJ or Hawaii have to offer (if they actually issued permits). Essentially backdoor destruction of may-issue and reciprocity wrapped up in one.

    Save the freak-outs for when alternate texts appear.

  5. Crawler Says:

    Maybe I’m wrong, but I see S.498 as much ado about nothing.

    Anti individual inherent rights states like [fill in your own blanks] will still erect their “This is a Gun Free State” signs at every road and highway entering their state for every free and legally armed out-of-state American to read.

    As far as I’m concerned, the wordage in Article Two of the Bill of Rights is crystal clear; and in a real Republic, our employees in congress wouldn’t be wasting their time and our money with such nonsense. But I digress.

    In the meantime, me and my discretionary dollars will avoid the few phony American states that are left (no pun intended) like the plague.

  6. Ron W Says:

    Crawler, I call them, “the phony American states”, slave states, since the 1857 SCOTUS Dred Scott decision kept slavery legal in the U.S. lest, if black people be persons, they would be allowed to ” go armed everywhere they went” according to ” the right of the people” in the 2nd Amendment.

  7. Sigivald Says:

    It would be handy, but I don’t think it’s actually part of Congress’ enumerated powers to do that.

  8. KM Says:

    “If a state offers carry to its own citizens then it has to offer carry to other state’s citizens on the least restrictive terms it offers its own.

    Let me see if I’m reading this right…
    All I have to do is keep up with all the requirements of every state/county/city hoop to jump through to get CC there, and I can use my CC permit as long as they consider my CC permit trials and tribulations worthy?
    Yeah, that sounds perfect.

  9. Stretch Says:

    Fortunately the Supreme Court just handed the NRA/ILA the perfect answer.
    It it’s a right in one state it’s a right in ALL states.
    If the argument is good enough for an interpreted right it’s damn well good enough for an enumerated right.
    Should they take that tact the IRA/ILA will make Bader-Ginsburg’s, Sotomayor’s, and Kagan’s heads explode.

  10. Jumbo Says:

    The way I read it is that the SC ruled that if the majority of states agree on something, in this case gay marriage, then it should apply to all states because of equal treatment under the law. Therefore, since the majority of states have CCW and open carry, using the same logic, all states should be required to have CCW’s and open carry, just like they’re now required to allow gay marriage and accept gay marriage certificates from other states. That’s the main problem with this recent ruling, it forces states to accept the majority of states rule on any subject, by dictate of 5 unelected millionaire Ivy League lawyers who currently sit on the SC.

  11. Mr Wizard Says:

    http://allenbwest.com/2015/06/yeehaw-this-side-effect-of-the-gay-marriage-ruling-will-make-liberals-explode/

    “SCOTUS argued Due Process Clause extends “certain personal choices central to individual dignity and autonomy” accepted in a majority of states across the state lines of a handful of states that still banned the practice. The vast majority of states are ‘shall issue’ … and enjoy reciprocity with a large number of other states … States [that] did not recognize concealed carry permit before ruling, afterward … must.”

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