Chicago denying gun permits to black people
Well, at least one. I’m sure there are more. And people are suing the city over it.
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May 6th, 2015 at 8:39 pm
This is what happens when you allow government to license.
May 6th, 2015 at 10:55 pm
Not only that, they’re trying to deny people Black Guns again:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/highland-park/news/ct-hpn-morrison-bill-tl-0507-20150505-story.html
May 7th, 2015 at 6:22 am
Let’s call it for what this law really is. It’ s Jim Crow resurrected.
May 7th, 2015 at 8:03 am
The concealed carry law in Illinois was, in my opinion, deliberately designed to be racist.
1) It is an expensive permit to apply for at $150 for a resident
2) Illinois has the most onerous training requirements of any state, adding significantly to the expense
3) Carry is prohibited by statute in 23 categories of places, including public transportation
When you add these things up the law seems very much stacked against minorities, who are disproportionately affected by these issues.
The law enforcement objection system also seems to disproportionately affect minorities. This system isn’t used to keep people who have been convicted of disqualifying crimes from getting licenses — those convictions prevent a successful application before law enforcement has an opportunity to object. It’s designed to allow law enforcement to object to “the wrong people” from getting licenses if they haven’t been convicted of disqualifying crimes.
May 7th, 2015 at 8:06 am
I read the article thoroughly. The law is meant to be onerous, but I think it is a huge stretch to say racism is the motivation for denials. I think the govt staff is just denying permits on whimsical reasons because their bosses want fewer armed citizens.
May 7th, 2015 at 9:17 am
>The concealed carry law in Illinois was, in my opinion, deliberately designed to be racist.
Have the voting requirement mirror the carry license requirement. See people howl about disenfranchisement.
May 7th, 2015 at 9:33 am
As we have learned from the rape crisis on college campuses and the race riots stemming from police misbehavior, ONE single example of bias or wrong behavior, even if completely falsely described or made up from the start, is enough to condemn the entire judicial system and all police.
We have one true example of bias directed against an African-American regarding concealed carry; therefore ALL the gun laws should be repealed post haste!
Or do we have to riot several times, or carry around mattresses, to get that to happen?
May 8th, 2015 at 2:19 am
It was a heroic black man, Otis McDonald R.I.P., who took his denial of a gun permit to the U.S.Supreme Court and that is why Chicago is now required to issue permits.
May 10th, 2015 at 9:08 am
Late to the discussion but two things:
1) Carrying, with a CCL, in a prohibited place like public transportation is only a petty offense or misdemeanor, whereas without the CCL it would be a felony. Double-check this before you do it because the law is still young in the courts. But it’s something in more than a little way.
2) The architect of the law was Kwaime Raoul, black State Senator from Chicago’s 13th District. He fought the governor, rabid anti, over the bill. I’ve heard him speak about it and he talked both about the drive-by shootings on his own block and his legitimate businessman constituent who dealt in cash and had been robbed and shot(?) on his way to the bank.
Will antis and racists (but I repeat myself) make it to the objecting boards? You betcha. Systemic? I doubt it.
May 10th, 2015 at 9:16 am
The idea of guns being carried “everywhere they went” was a reason that black people were kept as non-persons and thus subject to legal slavery in the 1857 SCOTUS Dred Scott decision. Ironically, most blacks politically reside on the same ideological plantation that has always been pro-slavery.