If you weren’t breaking the law, you wouldn’t use encryption
NSA views encryption as evidence of suspicion and will target those who use it,
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March 11th, 2014 at 11:10 pm
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March 12th, 2014 at 7:19 am
Thinkin it’s time for a bunch of people to start randomly encrypting articles about the NSA, cat pictures, rickrolls etc. and using hot keywords in their sig lines and whatnot, unencrypted. Make them dig through volumes of chaff, if they like digging so much.
March 12th, 2014 at 7:40 am
Ahh, yes the Feinstein who spends all her time defending these assholes is the same one that is getting hacked by the CIA assholes. That is truly ironic.
Is it just me or does their search through Unencrypted files sound like trying to find a specific needle in a needle stack?
March 12th, 2014 at 8:17 am
While Mr. Evilwrench and Paul both have the right idea, the NSA won’t notice either cat picture chaff or unwanted needles for more than small fractions of seconds when using their truly amazing computational power to decode and find the information they seek.
Unless almost everyone uses encryption, it is just another neon sign pointing to your info for their computers.
Perhaps something along the lines of H.P. Lovecraft is true:
“The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents.”
March 12th, 2014 at 8:46 am
“They” – an increasingly-populous collective – can get anybody they want. There are so many laws that everybody is breaking them all the time.
The trick is to not do anything that makes them want to get you. Don’t use encryption, don’t use VPNs, and avoid things you think might be keywords.
*Sigh*. And that’s the state of the body politic these days.
March 12th, 2014 at 9:23 am
Everyone uses encryption automatically for a great many things on the internet. This is silly and possibly bogus.
March 12th, 2014 at 12:05 pm
But…but…how would they know?
They only copy, timestamp, and store…uh…”Meta” data.
I guess I’ll have to improve my script handwriting for those letters I send….you know…through the mail.
I’m going to miss the Cryptoquote puzzle in the newspaper every day.
March 12th, 2014 at 12:32 pm
That logic can be applied in the other direction, and with more credibility, import and poignancy;
If you’re not seeking power over the citizenry, you wouldn’t be spying on them en masse and saving the data.
March 12th, 2014 at 2:18 pm
I really need to set up my encryption breaker detector. I should have done that years ago…
March 12th, 2014 at 2:49 pm
Private business communications, secrecy in negotiations, extramarital affairs, correspondence with attorneys…… there are countless legitimate reasons to use encryption. Moral or immoral, that’s for the user to decide.
But, legitimate, all.
Still, it’s looking like “trusted courier” is going to be the last remaining, relatively secure means of conveying critical information. Until they start arming the drones and targeting the couriers, it would seem.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
March 12th, 2014 at 4:10 pm
NSA views encryption as evidence of suspicion
Just like:
Not letting police in if they happen to knock on your front door w/o a warrant.
Saying “No, you do not have permission to search my car.”
Telling your congresscritter that you dislike their policies so much you are going to help their opponents campaign.
Standing up for your Second Amendment right.
All signs of nefarious activity and cause for greater scrutiny. Those people who want to live under the Constitution are just stirring up trouble and asking for it.
@Lyle: If you’re not seeking power over the citizenry, you wouldn’t be spying on them en masse and saving the data
+10
March 12th, 2014 at 5:13 pm
@DocMerlin #6: Yes, and no. There’s different kinds of encryption.
If you’re visiting SSL encrypted websites then that’s common and they won’t care (unless the website is itself suspicious). (And they can still tell what sites you’re visiting, for how long, etc.)
If you’re using TOR for 100% of your traffic, or tunneling all of your traffic to a VPN in a foreign country, that’s suspicious. They also probably can’t tell exactly what sites you’re visiting. That’s the kind of encryption he’s talking about.
March 12th, 2014 at 6:25 pm
“NSA views encryption as evidence of suspicion and will target those who use it, ”
Fuck’em. Let’s ALL USE IT. Just to fuck’em!
March 12th, 2014 at 10:15 pm
Does that mean that the converse is true? If you DO have something to hide, but don’t bother encrypting it, then the NSA won’t have the time or resources to hack you?
March 12th, 2014 at 11:48 pm
I thought they were still maintaining that they didn’t spy on US persons within CONUS…
March 13th, 2014 at 1:29 am
Hey, start sending encrypted copies of the Constitution and Bill of Rights through the internet.
But really, if you are going to encrypt, you have to encrypt everything. I used to work for an office that sent environmental warnings. We had a direct link to the DoD for messages. All our traffic to them had to be encrypted even though we sent the same messages to everyone, including the Soviets. In fact, the Soviets probably got it first since Telex was automatic while we had to get up and feed the encrypted message into the punch tape reader.
March 13th, 2014 at 4:32 pm
MrSatyre — actually, if you work solely in the open, but are circumspect about keywords and do not have associations to flagged people, that would likely avoid NSA attention altogether. Because they wouldn;t be LOOKING for you.
Sort of like the drug dealer who maintains an apparant job and files taxes on an income level that matches his apprant lifestyle is unlikely to get flagged by IRS for closer scrutiny.
March 14th, 2014 at 6:08 am
Completing your quote: ….. says …. Glenn Greenwald???
Excuse me if I’m underwhelmed! I have no wish to defend the excesses of our Noble Government™, but on the other hand some sources are completely compromised and he’s one.