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So let me get this straight

The prosecution’s case against Zimmerman is based on:

A portly 30 year old outran and tackled a 17 year old
A witness who knows what wet grass sounds like
And a letter supposedly written by someone who can’t even read it

OK, then.

26 Responses to “So let me get this straight”

  1. Robb Allen Says:

    Crazy ass crackers.

  2. Robb Allen Says:

    Hmm…linky no worky.

    Try again

  3. mike w. Says:

    Yeah, and this portly older dude outran a 17 year old black kid who, IIRC, was a wide receiver….. yeah… right.

  4. tincankilla Says:

    sorry, there was one adult in the situation, one guy with a gun, and one guy with the police on the phone. not sure about 2nd Degree Murder, but the dude should go to jail.

  5. Matthew Carberry Says:

    Huh?

    For what crime, exactly. FL statutes are online, if there’s one that fits your take of the actual evidence and testimony you should be able to find one easily enough You don’t send people to jail “just because.”

  6. Cargosquid Says:

    I’m curious as to how Zimmerman supposedly ran down a person when he didn’t know where Martin had gone. In the dark, while it was pouring rain.

  7. Leatherwing Says:

    What about the histrionic witness that heard three gunshots. Probably coming from the wet grassy knoll.

  8. Mac Says:

    You forgot the part about the illiterate girl who does not think that cracker is a racial slur.

  9. Miguel Says:

    And you forgot the other witness that heard several shots…three or so.

  10. USCitizen Says:

    Open and Closed Case in the Courts of our Constitutional Democratic Republic.

    Innuendo as evidence and eye-witnesses who did not see anyhting in the dark.

    The State has the burden of proof. So far, it appears that they have no evidence.

    Prediction: Win for the Defense, followed by cities in flames and mass protests.

  11. mike w. Says:

    Here’s what he’s charged with. Murder 2nd

    “The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree and constitutes a felony of the first degree, punishable by imprisonment for a term of years not exceeding life or as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.”

    The State is going to have one hell of time proving that “beyond a reasonable doubt.” There’s a TON of reasonable doubt in this case.

  12. Gunnutmegger Says:

    http://legalinsurrection.com/ has a lawyer in the courtroom tweeting updates.

    2 of the prosecution’s witnesses have significantly changed their testimony on the stand. And defense was apparently able to tie both examples directly to the interference of prosecutors.

    The witness that can’t read? The prosecutor took her deposition while making her sit right next to Trayvon Martin’s mom.

    Since election-year politics is why this case was mishandled from the start, the prosecution can’t be blind to what they are doing. So are they just trying to save face and hope for a reverse-OJ Simpson jury result? Or are they banking on the turmoil that will result after an acquittal to help their identity-politics agenda?

  13. Other Steve Says:

    mikew: Correct. Why they didn’t go for manslaughter I don’t know. The people on the prosecution want their names in the papers more I guess.

    They might have been able to get manslaughter because he chose to follow and that decision eventually led to the shooting. If you walk into a biker bar and start throwing fists, someone’s about to kill you and you shoot them, you’re still at SOME fault here. But it’s going to be near impossible to get Murder2 and I think they must have known that. Some serious gaming the jury if they are able to suggest there is no reasonable doubt.

  14. mariner Says:

    This case is being decided by six women.

    In Florida.

    I predict conviction, regardless of the evidence.

  15. Siergen Says:

    If the jury members have anything incriminating in their IRS or NSA files, they will receive “friendly advice” that they vote to convict the “evil NRA gun-nut”.

  16. SayUncle Says:

    Sadly, mariner is probably correct.

  17. TigerStripe Says:

    They might have been able to get manslaughter because he chose to follow and that decision eventually led to the shooting. If you walk into a biker bar and start throwing fists, someone’s about to kill you and you shoot them, you’re still at SOME fault here. But it’s going to be near impossible to get Murder2 and I think they must have known that. Some serious gaming the jury if they are able to suggest there is no reasonable doubt.

    Are you serious in that analogy? Following someone is not aggression and is not remotely the same as walking in to a biker bar and throwing punches. I haven’t read any evidence that stated that Zimmerman followed Martin and threw a punch at him.

    You forgot the part about the illiterate girl who does not think that cracker is a racial slur.

    I don’t think it is. Or rather I don’t pretend that it bothers me.

  18. Robert Says:

    As far as the witness that claims to have heard multiple shots, I would say that since she was at the end of a “corridor” of buildings in the development, that she might have heard the original shot followed very quickly by an echo of the report off the building at other end of the corridor. It’s possible that the sound may have echoed more than once.

  19. milquetoast Says:

    A portly 30 year old outran and tackled a 17 year old

    He was 28 at the time and not nearly as chubby.

  20. Frank Beckman Says:

    Zimmerman disregarded one of the basic rules of life: mind your own business. Now it’s coming back at him.

  21. Robert Says:

    “He was 28 at the time and not nearly as chubby.”

    And still wouldn’t have had a prayer of catching up to a 17 yr old former wide receiver who had a good 30 second head start on him.

  22. Todd Says:

    I loved the part where in a court of law you cannot bring up a defendants past criminal history even for the purpose of showing character, but you can try to bring up the past phone calls to police made by a citizen who has never committed a high crime in the attempt to show character. Sounds kinda bass-ackwards to me.

  23. Paul Says:

    tincankilla,

    Age does not matter when they sucker punchy you, straddle you, slam your head against the pavement.

    Martin was old enough to kill Zimmerman, and he tried.

    Zimmerman’s only ‘crime’ was trying to find out why a person was sneaking around the neighborhood. And as shown by the testimony, Martin sought out Zimmerman, not the other way.

  24. chris Says:

    I am hoping for an acquital.

    This wouldn’t have been brought to the Grand Jury in East Tn, because our DA, who is actually a liberal Democrat, prosecutes perps – not victims.

  25. JKB Says:

    Unsurprisingly, the dry by media are playing it up so as to make it a shock when he’s acquitted. I guess they want a summer race riot to prop up the ratings.

  26. Spud Says:

    Just take the damn idiots CCW away and be done with it.
    With stand your ground pretty much it’s a no brainer the outcome. If you fear , you can shoot !

    He did break the rules of engagement by pursuing TM.
    Just the kinda wanna be that give us all a bad rep.

    Not to mention he used all that donated cash to get fat lol

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