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Making sausage

The NYT on NY’s ridiculous gun bill:

Governor Andrew Cuomo is trying to lead the nation in gun control, but heís picked a peculiar way of doing it. Mr. Cuomo negotiated in secret with a few other powerful politicians on a dogís breakfast of legislation that got no public discussion at all and was passed by state senators who had not even read itóbecause they were not given a chance to do so.

13 Responses to “Making sausage”

  1. bob smith Says:

    If they are not given a chance to read the bill, then their automatic vote should be NO.

  2. Bubblehead Les Says:

    Elections have Consequences.

  3. Jake Says:

    If they are not given a chance to read the bill, then their automatic vote should be NO.

    This, x1000.

  4. Chas Says:

    Governor Cuomo is a rapist. He raped our Second Amendment rights in a rushed hurry, in the dead of night. Rapists are always in a hurry, and they prefer to do their dirty deeds at night, like our rapo governor. I’m not going to call him “Governor Cuomo” anymore, I’m going to call him what he is, Rapo Cuomo.

  5. wizardpc Says:

    Any word on how many LEOs resigned this morning rather than enforce this?

    I’ve been told a large number would do that. I won’t hold my breath.

  6. Geodkyt Says:

    I’d like to see a requirement that any bill be read aloud (members can rotate who reads what section) before a _continuous_ quorum (meaning, if Representative Benchwarmer, who was there at the beginning, walks out 30 seconds before they finish, he _isn’t_ counted for quorum) before debate, with an exception if 3/4 of the whole membership (not just those present) vote to suspend reading.

  7. Geodkyt Says:

    I notice the writer is fairly worked up about the exempting gun license lists from FOIA.

  8. aczarnowski Says:

    The requirement for a full reading before a continuous quorum (no exceptions IMO) would immediately solve a lot of legislative problems. But these aren’t problems to legislators. They’re features. Which means we’ll never see it happen.

  9. Professor X Says:

    This is how Obama’s done everything.

  10. Disavowed With Honor Says:

    bob smith Says:
    January 16th, 2013 at 11:42 am
    If they are not given a chance to read the bill, then their automatic vote should be NO.

    2.Bubblehead Les Says:
    January 16th, 2013 at 11:54 am
    Elections have Consequences.

    3.Jake Says:
    January 16th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    If they are not given a chance to read the bill, then their automatic vote should be NO.

    This, x1000.

    Actually gentleman, though I appreciate your ability to restrain yourselves…

    The response should be “FUCK NO AND FUCK YOU” to anyone voting against our rights and not giving anyone an opportunity to read it. I’m going to submit documents to them that they are required to sign and not allowed to read. When they do, they will be sending me their salaries and healthcare benefits for life. If they can do it to us, they should expect the same in return.


  11. David Scruggs Says:

    If the pro gun voters of NY are going to let their elected representatives get away with this bullshit, then they deserve what they get. Seriously, if they didn’t have the spine to stand up to the political pressure put on them, then they don’t fear getting voted out of their positions in the next election. As a previous poster already pointed out, elections have consequences.

  12. New York Stagehand Says:

    What amazes me is that people believe that Cuomo will only use this tactic on this issue and that he wouldn’t dream of using it on anything else. That is an insane view. He will ask once and then take what he wants. It’s classic Tammany Hall and he forgets that in 1911 (ironic isn’t it?) HIS people were the target of Big Tim’s law.

  13. mikee Says:

    It will take millions of dollars and years of litigation to empty this honey bucket of new, obviously unconstitutional laws.

    And this governor has Presidential aspirations.

    My only hope is that the overturning of these laws in courts produces such ironclad precedents against infringements of rights as to bewilder those who voted for them.